trouble with simple repeats
Hi there
I'm having trouble adjusting the play count of a simple repeat. I've highlighted the final bar of the repeat section, right clicked, bar properties, adjusted play count to 4, selected 'apply, and then 'ok, but it just doesn't seem to stick. When I play from the beginning, it plays straight through the repeat and onwards. It doesn't even repeat once, never mind four times. What am I missing please?
Thanks
David
Comments
You are either in a pre-3.5.1 version using continuous view or you have Play repeats turned off on your toolbar. It's the button that looks like an end repeat. If you're not using 3.5.2 then upgrade.
In reply to You are either in a pre-3.5… by mike320
Thanks Mike. I've loaded the latest version but it keeps crashing, so now I can't open a score at all....
In reply to Thanks Mike. I've loaded the… by David Strahan
See https://musescore.org/en/faq#faq-312352
In reply to Thanks Mike. I've loaded the… by David Strahan
I double click on MuseScore logo, it loads, then says 'not responding', then disappears altogether.
In reply to I double click on MuseScore… by David Strahan
Read the FAQ... double clicking the MuseScore logo is not any of the workarounds mentioned there, on the contrary it is what triggers the crash
In reply to Thanks Mike. I've loaded the… by David Strahan
Mike, I've loaded new version and done the workaround. What I find now is that the simple repeat works fine. But a 1-3 and 4th time bar does not. Though I have changed the bar properties for the bar containing the end repeat mark to a play count of 4, it just repeats once then whistles right through. Again, what am I missing please?
In reply to Mike, I've loaded new… by David Strahan
You said simple, which to me means no voltas. See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/voltas for more info on setting up the voltas correctly.
Attach your score if you still have problems.
In reply to You said simple, which to me… by mike320
I thought I had followed that guidance already. HIghlighted volta, went into inspector, set both the text and the volta list, but it still repeats only once and then carries on.
In reply to I thought I had followed… by David Strahan
You'd also need to increase the play count of the measure(s) with the end repeat barline, from 2 (the default) to 4 here
In reply to I thought I had followed… by David Strahan
I'll need to see the .mscz file to know for sure. I'm not sure you set play count in measure properties to 4 or changed the play list in volta 4 to 4. Attach it if this doesn't fix the problem.
In reply to I'll need to see the .mscz… by mike320
I thought had set the play count to 4 and adjusted volta list as you say. But here's the score. Thank you.
In reply to I thought had set the play… by David Strahan
It's another duplicate volta. I selected the volta and then dragged it to reveal what was below.
Delete the one with the single repeat and the remaining one works fine.
Are we getting these because we can now enter a volta with a single click, but users are still double clicking?
In reply to It's another duplicate volta… by SteveBlower
Thank you! Genius.
In reply to Thank you! Genius. by David Strahan
Not genius, experience. We have had a lot of users with similar problems (and requiring similar remedies) recently. I also have found duplicate dynamic and slurs in my own scores as a result of not getting out of the double-click habit. Old dogs, new tricks etc.
In reply to Not genius, experience. We… by SteveBlower
In which normal situation would you ever want double volta on the same set of measure(s)? I think that once a volta is added above a set of measures, MuseScore should prompt you for confirmation when you seem to try to add another one. Same for fingering and lot of other elements where most of the time (not always I know) you will never attach more than one to the same item.
In reply to It's another duplicate volta… by SteveBlower
> "Are we getting these because we can now enter a volta with a single click, but users are still double clicking?"
I believe so, and I believe that if the start and endpoint are a match, that we probably should not allow adding another volta there (or have them at least avoid each other, so you can see that you've added two of them)
In reply to > "Are we getting these… by jeetee
I think even if the start and end points don't match "something" should happen to either disallow a second overlapping volta or make the user aware that they are about to add one.
Are overlapping voltas ever a "thing"?
In reply to I think even if the start… by SteveBlower
They are a (exotic experimental) thing, and will be pretty much supported from 3.6 on.
(1,2,3 (2 only) )could be written and will be internally broken into
(1,2,3 )(2 only)(1,2,3 )In reply to They are a (exotic… by jeetee
Pity the poor musicians that have to guess what those exotic nested voltas mean and navigate the maze.
Why not go the whole hog and have things like gosub and if ... then ... else and while ... wend?
In reply to Pity the poor musicians that… by SteveBlower
Ha! gosub has been requested before, by those more familiar with sampling programs. But that has no equivalent in standard notation AFAIK.
In reply to Ha! gosub has been requested… by jeetee
Not exactly the same, but in Lilypond you can define "fragments" of score in macros and reuse them to define your final score with minimal repetition
In reply to Not exactly the same, but in… by frfancha
That "fragments" idea would be nice to have, but that is a long way away from supporting what seems to be non-standard and confusing notation. Unless someone knows different and has seen nested/overlapping voltas in the wild that is.
In reply to You said simple, which to me… by mike320
The handbook talks about simple repeats as long as repeat barlines and voltas are involved, in contrast to jumps, Da Cape, D.S. al Coda etc.