inserting measure and change time signature
1) create a new score starting with some time signature, for example 3/4
2) fill some measures with notes
3) in the next measure change time signature, for example to 4/4
4) fill one measure with notes
5) in the next measure change time signature ti 5/4
6) fill sime measures with notes
7) again change next measure to 4/4, put some notes
8) go to the measure where started with 5/4
9) insert a new measure before the selected measure
10) try to change time signature in the new inserted measure; in this moment you will already have a mess
11) try to change time signature in the measure which was selected before insertion; a mess becomes even bigger
12) try to get that the new inserted measure be the last in the system (before breaking in the new system), and change time signature ...
... and so on. I have seen different strange effects: the time signature were duplicated ..., when trying to change time signature in the inserted measure, another new measure has been inserted and so on.
With the attached file ... go to the measure number 17 and insert one measure before. Then you can do more different steps from there. Try to change time signature. Or try to delete the (duplicated) time measure. Or try to insert one more measure before the original number 17 ...
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And what I need to do ... I need to insert two measures before measure number 17, first with 4/4, and second with 5/4.
Tried it, no mess.
You haven't attached any file.
I'll try to send attachment again.
You can see what happen
_1 - after inserting new measure
_2 - after trying to change time time signature
_3 - undoing all changes, and inserting one measure, fixing old measure no 17 to 5/4 and inserting one more measure
In reply to _3 - undoing all changes,… by Damir Šimunović
Format >Style >Page: uncheck "Create courtesy time signatures".
Select Bar 17, press [Ins] key twice. (Note that this changes the Bar numbers following).
Select (new) Bar 18, add 5/4 Time Signature.
Select (new) Bar 17, add 4/4/ Time Signature.
This takes the 5/4 bar and makes two 4/4 bars. Select the second of those 4/4 bars (now labelled as Bar 18), go to Menu and Tools >Remove Selected Range.
In reply to Format >Style >Page: uncheck… by underquark
Thanks, it works, but it’s really work around that I would never have thought of. :)
This score has become partially corrupt, somehow the courtesy 5/4 at the end of bar 16 has become "permanent". If you can figure out precise to make that happen again, let us know so we can address the underlying cause. Meanwhile, the above should fix it. Also deleting these spurious time signature changes and re-adding them could as well.
Causing a corruption is a critical severity...
In reply to This score has become… by Marc Sabatella
I don’t really know how that could have happened. I only remember that that beat no. 16 was previously inserted. At that point, the lyrics of the song were already written. I deleted the text in the example I sent. If something like this happens again, I will definitely let you know.
FWIW, it's not corrupt in the usual sense of wrong number of beats in a measure - it just has an extra hidden time signature that can be removed when it reappears. So not nearly as serious as "normal" corruption. Still, we've been fighting these extra time signatures (and key signatures, and clefs) for quite a while, and while we've fixed all the reproducible cases I know of, apparently there is still a problem somewhere, so it would be nice to figure out how to reproduce it and fix it.