Score Properties... (does not show on score)
When one create a score without composer, lyrics etc information. After created, re-enter the composer, lyrics etc information, they don't show up on the score display.
Is it a bug ?
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Welcome. No, Score Properties are tags.
You can add Title/Composer/Lyricist by right click the Title frame
Old How to: https://musescore.org/en/node/93581
HTH
In reply to Welcome. No, Score… by Shoichi
I know how to entry the score properties. The problem that is when user forget enter info. when create a score, then later try to re-enter.
You can try to duplicate on the current version 2.3.2 (WIndow 7 OS):
1. Create new score without composer, lyrics info.
2. Follow the instruction to completion of the new score.
3. Click File ->Score Properties, enter arranger, composer, lyrics information. Click OK
4. composer, lyrics information does not show on the score display
In reply to You can try to duplicate on… by VinhSon
Yes.
This extra information is not displayed on the score.
I think it's still valid.
It is documented that those tags and the corresponding fields in the title frame are not synced, but only set once at score creation time
In reply to It is documented that those… by Jojo-Schmitz
Hope this will be fixed on the next release ?
In reply to Hope this will be fix on the… by VinhSon
It's not a bug, it's by design - there may be times you don't want the title displayed in that way. it is possible some future release will provide a new feature allowing this to happen, though, such as by allowing ordinary text like titles to reference score metadata. For now, simply add the title normally, as text (eg, Add / Text / Title).
In reply to It's not a bug, it's by… by Marc Sabatella
I think the design should be rethought.
It seems to me that if a person adds that info to score properties, they DO want it to show.
If you don't want the title properties that way, you should be able to change it, either by deleting or editing. At least the info would be there.
In reply to I think the design should be… by xavierjazz
There is a request to allow referencing those meta tags in places other than header and footer, like in frames. This would solve the problem.
In reply to There is a request to allow… by Jojo-Schmitz
That's interesting. I assume there would be a yes/no choice, a box.
In reply to That's interesting. I assume… by xavierjazz
I don't think so. Either you use the meta tag, e.g.
$:workTitle:,$:composer:, etc. or you don't.The default title frame from the new score wizard would use them b(by default), frames added later won't (again, by default).
At least that's how I'd see this implemented
In reply to I don't think so. Wither you… by Jojo-Schmitz
When user writes a score he /she may not want to show the score's info. but later he/she may change one's mind to show the info
If the score properties option allows to change/update info. then this info. should show on the screen
In reply to When user writes a score he … by VinhSon
It does, you just have to do it twice currently
In reply to It does, you just have to do… by Jojo-Schmitz
I can live with it, but it's not the common sense way.
In reply to I can live with it, but it's… by VinhSon
That's why we have the feature request #266706: Metadata (tags) in frames ;-)
In reply to That's why we have the… by Jojo-Schmitz
I see, this feature has been requested
Thanks
In reply to I think the design should be… by xavierjazz
@ xavierjazz, see https://musescore.org/en/node/275298#comment-848639
you can have more that one frame, more than one composer/lyricist/title in a score, bot only one in score properties
In reply to Hope this will be fix on the… by VinhSon
No fix needed, as there is no bug
In reply to No fix needed, as there is… by Jojo-Schmitz
The "Fix" OP was referring to was more along the line of a feature request. Make the score automatically update when the score properties are updated. We've seen this request a few times and is a reasonable request. I'm about to leave so I don't have time to look for an existing feature request, but IIRC one exists.
I also would have to say that this "not a bug" is nevertheless an unfortunate design decision, one that results in confusing and unexpected behavior. I had to create a brand-new score from scratch and copy the entire chart into the new score to get the composer/lyricist names to appear where I wanted them. (Right click on frame -> Add -> Lyricist failed. Repeatedly.) I am skeptical that there are a significant number of users who want or need a score that does not include music/lyrics names at the top of the score but nevertheless need that information included in the file metadata. Nevertheless, if I'm wrong, I would suggest that a far better solution is to have the initial title frame be a privileged entity. It should ALWAYS include the metadata. If a user doesn't want it showing, then they can delete the default frame and replace it with a standard frame, into which they must type the title, and so forth.
Allowing metatags in places besides the headers/footers would be nice, but does not solve the problem of adding credits after a score is created and them not showing up where many people, including myself, quite logically expect them to appear. I assume this means that if I update the metadata, that, too, will not be reflected on the page itself.
In reply to I also would have to say… by snarke
What went wrong when you tried to add the lyricist text? That sounds like a bug, one I've never heard reported before. If possible, please attach your score and steps to reproduce it. Certainly, you shouldn't have to create a brand new score just to get the lyricist to show up! It's supposed to be trivially easy, and is. Most users probably have no idea there even is file metadata and wouldn't care if the lyricist shows there or not, but they can always go there and add it if they miss it. And yes, I agree it would be better if these were linked, but still, it is easy to add the lyricist, really. And whatever bug was preventing "Add lyricist" from working for you may very well have also prevented it from working even if we did automatically link ti to Score Properties :-)
In reply to What went wrong when you… by Marc Sabatella
I think the problem is, is that I mis-interpreted the context-sensitive menu. To me, "Add Lyricist" obviously meant it would add the name of the lyricist as already recorded in the metadata. I eventually decided what it meant was "Here, I'll let you type anything you want, but I'll format it according to the default for "lyricist" in the style configuration."
If the latter interpretation is correct, then, in fact, I wasted my time. What I want is to be able to UPDATE the metadata and see that reflected on the sheet music, and my understanding is that currently is not how it works.
In reply to I think the problem is, is… by snarke
It is, indeed, the latter
In reply to I think the problem is, is… by snarke
For the record: there are score properties, and there is what shows in your score. No connection between the two whatsoever in either direction, except that the Create New Score Wizard will fill them both in for you when you first create your score.
In reply to For the record: there are… by Marc Sabatella
Is there a good reason (which I do not know) why this is the case?
In reply to Is there a good reason … by xavierjazz
The same reason as for so many (even obvious) things. No contributor has put in the implementation time to (re-)parse all relevant text fields yet.
In reply to The same reason as for so… by jeetee
I should have realized. Thanks.
Best to all.
In reply to I should have realized… by xavierjazz
Is this the open feature request to connect score metadata / properties to what is used in the actual sheet?
https://musescore.org/en/node/266706
My situation was, added metadata and later wanted to add composer. $:composer did nothing and adding composer opened a blank text field to enter anything. I'd assume this is not what users expect when having a composer in score metadata and then adding a composer via right-click.
Is there a way to +1 an issue or vote for it? Did subscribe.
In reply to Is this the open features… by notation_perdition
Yes #266706: Metadata (tags) in frames is that.
In reply to What went wrong when you… by Marc Sabatella
I just had the exact same thing happen. I waited to add the arranger (me) and the lyricist after the fact (hadn't done this initially) and neither are showing in my score now. I did want all that printed as several of us are arranging the same song and it would help when looking at several different scores.
In reply to I just had the exact same… by Lita Rubin Saltzman
Having the Score Properties connected to the the text in that title frame automatically would be nice someday indeed. But to be clear, for now, just add the text to your score normally - via Add/Text from the main menu, or by right-clicking an existing frame.
Please help me! Something is off with my spacing. When I print this score, the "score properties" with copy right etc.--- what I call the "footer" do not show... I want maximum grand staff space , but need that copyright to show in the footer. Please help thank you! Kathleen
In reply to Please help me! Something is… by kathleensings
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Should there be more than what I see?
In reply to ? Should there be more than… by Shoichi
Add via Format/Style->Header
In reply to ? Should there be more than… by Shoichi
I changed the lyrics, but you can see the footer score properties on the screen yet when I print, it is gone. please help!
In reply to Please help me! Something is… by kathleensings
Are you printing on US Letter size paper (the most common in the US)? If so, the reason it's getting cut off is because your score is using A4 size paper, which is slightly longer than Letter. If you change your paper size in Page Settings, the bottom will stop getting cut off.
In reply to Are you printing on US… by dragonwithafez
yes same paper and printer that I always use.
In reply to yes same paper and printer… by kathleensings
Check if your printer has the "fit to page" option usually present for PDFs. Otherwise set another paper size.
In reply to yes same paper and printer… by kathleensings
If you are printing on letter paper, then as mentioned above, that is your problem - well, more specifically, the problem is that the score itself is not set to use letter paper. It's set to use A4. So yes, same printer and paper, but different score. Simply fix your score to also use letter, in Format / Page Settings, as described.
In reply to If you are printing on… by Marc Sabatella
Yes, that fixed it! Thank you so much all of your help is invaluable!