Extra key signatures appearing after transpose.
I have transposed the whole of a piano piece from g# minor to b minor. In addition to apperaing at the beginning of each system, the new key signature also appears at the beginning of seemingly random bars within the piece. I cannot delete them. The navigator shows an option to show courtesy key signatures. It is ticked, and will not untick. I think the additional key signatures are at bard that began systems under the old key signature, which took up more space. Inserting line breaks at these places leaves courtesy key signatures at the end of the previous system. Again "show courtesy key signatures" is ticked and will not untick. does anyone know how to remove these extra key signatures? Thank you.
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Found the answer. Although "show courtesy key signatures" will not untick in Navigator for individual instances, it will untick in Format /Style/Page, which removes all of them.
In reply to Found the answer. Although … by Steve Sutton
No, actually that didn't solve it. Even changing back to the original key still gives extra key signatures and even some systems without a key signature at all.
I discovered this last night and I didn't find an issue open for it so I created #282071: Changing to enharmonic key signature reverts automatically. Though the method I used is slightly different, the result is the same. I'm linking these together so the person who fixes the issue will assure your issue is fixed as well, or has another issue created.
See also #280390: Spurious key change after transposition - that is probably the same issue.
Well, I thought I had this solved. In the navigator I could untick Automatic Placement, then right click on the unwanted key signature and delete it. Unfortunately, after the latest update this no longer works. as the problem seems to be related to automatic Placement, is there a way of turning this off all the time?
In reply to Well, I thought I had this… by Steve Sutton
The problem is not related to automatic placementI. It may well be that deleting the key signature works in some cases, but it doesn't in all, and automatic placement has no bearing on this. That is, if deleting works, it will work with or ithout automatic placement, and the same is true of the cases where it doesn't work.
My workaround to this problem is to go to each spurious key signature and add the same key signature to that bar from the key signature palette. This causes no visible change on the score, but now the key signature can be deleted.
In reply to My workaround to this… by Solomon Douglas
A quick way to do this: select the unwanted key signature. Double click on the same key signature from the key signature palette. Then press the delete key.
In reply to A quick way to do this:… by Solomon Douglas
thanks Soloman, great workaround!
In reply to A quick way to do this:… by Solomon Douglas
Thanks so much man, this worked for me!
In reply to My workaround to this… by Solomon Douglas
Thank you - after much frustration I tried your advice and it worked.
I've noticed this when copying one part to another part through a key change where the key change ends up showing twice (on every part)... but it's not really there. Deleting the "extra" one will delete the key change altogether and leaving it in but saving, closing and opening and the double disappears.
In reply to I've noticed this when… by John Asendorf
This is fixed, didn't make it into 3.0.3 apparently but will be in the next update.
Hello, I'm still having the same problem with the 3.2.2 ... any news ?
In reply to Hello, I'm still having the… by melina31
It does indeed still happen in scores from older 3.x releases, you'd need to fix those scores.
In reply to Hello, I'm still having the… by melina31
So, Format / Style / Page, turn off courtesy signatures, save, reload, then turn them back on. Now your score is fixed.
If that doesn't solve it, or if you manage to reproduce this on a score that was not originally created (and thus broken) by an older version, please attach your score so we can investigate further.
ok thank you for your quick answers, it worked that way. I hope they'll fix the bug soon though
In reply to ok thank you for your quick… by melina31
The bug was fixed long ago. It’s just as we’ve been saying, scores that were already damaged by earlier buggy versions still need to be repaired. Now that you’ve repaired yours, you won’t see that problem again in that score. But if you have other scores that were also damaged previously, you will still need to repair those.