Turns: if too close to one another, get a staircase effect

• Dec 30, 2018 - 01:46
Reported version
P2 - Medium
S4 - Minor

The turn symbols applied consecutively on an descending run are automatically placed in an ascending pattern on the continuous view.

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It is blank due to transparent background and Chorme not properly showing this, I found a Chrome extension the other day to fix that (but not yet for my mobile)
And yes, it is that staircase effect. Not sure it is a duplicate though, both cases may need to get treated differently?

Fermatas and articulations are indeed different types so handling is different; didn't mean to imply it would literally be a duplicate issue. Just that indeed the effect is similar and a similar type of solution would be needed.

BTW, regarding the image, I did figure the background was an issue with Chrome, but saw the same loading into IrfanView, fooling me into thinking it was more than that.

The workaround (not so many measures into same space) works. Thanks! Sorry for the double post. This is first time, and I was looking for a reply under the comment that I replied to (Facebook style). Anyway, thanks.

I have two potential solutions I have implemented in https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/5013. But because that PR is reallly about a totally different issue, I left the code comment out, so a separate PR would be needed.

The two solutions are 1) make sure we add more space before/after notes with accents to avoid collisions, or 2) go ahead and allow collisions. The downside of 1) is it does mean measures with wide articulations (turns, accents, trills) might take more space. The downside of 2) is of course, collisions, but it's not necessarily so bad makes sense for accents, which due to their shape can nest inside each other rather than actually collide. And I would be willing to bet that closely-placed accents are much more common than closely-placed turns, trills, or other wide articulations. But I'm open to feedback about this.

Assuming you mean, a few steps up but then jump back down as soon as there is room (so, a zig-zag up & down pattern), yes, that's come up before regarding text, and I agree it would be a good idea. There are indeed ways it could be done but not exactly simply. It's on the radar, though.