Visible ledger lines while invisible staff lines. Possible?
Hi,
I'd like to be able to have invisible staff lines, which I know how to do, but at the same time visible ledger lines. Is this possible to do? Thanks!
Guy
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That doesn't seem possible but it doesn't make sense to do it either.
Manually added lines or tricks. But I don't think it's worth it.
In reply to Manually added lines or… by Shoichi
Shoichi, that's not bad at all, thanks. Can you tell me how you added the ledger lines?
In reply to Shoichi, that's not bad at… by Guy Bacos
See: https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/cross-staff-notation
I have entered notes of Voice 2 in the lower stave and used Ctrl+Maius+Arrow on (and moved the pause of Voice 1).
With Ctrl+A you can see the different colors.
In reply to See: https://musescore.org… by Shoichi
Thanks, much appreciate that, ok I see, a bit tricky.... And there is nothing that allows you to add a little line, like a ledger line independently from the staff?
In reply to Thanks, much appreciate that… by Guy Bacos
There is a bit of work to be done but you can add lines from the Palette.
In reply to There is a bit of work to be… by Shoichi
From the Add palettes/Lines box and shorten the lines? I was just trying that, it seems the best option for this strange request.
In reply to There is a bit of work to be… by Shoichi
Oh, you mean custom made ledger lines, yeah, that's even better.
In reply to There is a bit of work to be… by Shoichi
Maybe I spoke too soon, is it possible to custom made small lines? It doesn't seem to work.
In reply to Maybe I spoke too soon, is… by Guy Bacos
Lines' default lengths are a segment, which is basically the distance from one note to the next. I would suggest that you try using the tenuto from the symbols as a ledger line and place it where you want it. It is by default basically the same length as a ledger line. If the symbol doesn't work you can use text and choose the tenuto from the special characters (press F2 while entering text). You can then change the font size to make the tenuto larger if you need to. In either case, these can be placed in a palette and reused then positioned properly. You should be able to disable auto placement and change the x and/or y offsets on all of them at once since they are both placed in relationship to the note.
In reply to Lines' default lengths are a… by mike320
Thanks again, those options are pretty good, however more suitable few just a few notes, as I'm looking for something more practical. I wonder if it's possible to have a special plugin custom made to do what I want. No idea how that would work though or who to ask.
In reply to Thanks again, those options… by Guy Bacos
Using Image Capture you can prepare 1, 2, 3, 4, 5... image lines to add to a custom palette. Just an idea.
In reply to Using Image Capture you can… by Shoichi
I'll check that out, thanks. Unrelated, but I had already found the image capture very useful for transparent background.
In reply to Lines' default lengths are a… by mike320
Just to sum it up, ultimately I'd like to be able to see the ledger lines in this attached example.
In reply to Just to sum it up,… by Guy Bacos
Perhaps you should check this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8yZEX5n11A&feature=youtu.be
At approx. 18 minutes you see Marc using the stacking order (Z value) for an image to place it "in between" other elements. Perhaps you can use this feature to hide the staff lines?
In reply to Perhaps you should check… by Henk De Groot
Hmmm! That's interesting, certainly worth a try, thanks Henk!
In reply to Hmmm! That's interesting,… by Guy Bacos
A bit later, believe around 28 min. he even adds it to a palet so you can easy use/re-use it. I know it is a bit of doing it this way but you might even be able to use just one image or box for a full page. I did not test that though.
In reply to A bit later, believe around… by Henk De Groot
There seem to be something possible with the right programming from that box, I've been playing around with it, but it doesn't come as easy as with Marc, maybe I'll ask him on the youtube video.
In reply to There seem to be something… by Guy Bacos
I am sure you got it working, as I have seen the question. However here is my attempt.
I added the image inside the title box, disabled autoplacing for the image, lowered the position and set the stacking order to 1200.
That also "removed" the barlines, so to fix that I selected all barlines and changed the stacking order for the barlines to 1250.
Only downside is that when the image is covering the full page, it is the item selected when you click somewhere. I just make the width smaller during the editing and afterwards change the width again for minimal effort.
In reply to I am sure you got it working… by Henk De Groot
I tried to explain on the other side of the pond the approach mentioned above
https://musescore.org/it/node/298183
(I confess that the main purpose was to eliminate some Come fare wrongly used to ask questions )
In reply to I tried to explain on the… by Shoichi
Amazing, you guys did it! I will get to it a little later today, but this is great work, I'm impressed. Thank you!
Shoichi, I'm trying to find where I can change the language to english on your link.
In reply to Amazing, you guys did it! I… by Guy Bacos
If useful https://musescore.org/en/node/293183
;-)