notes displaced within measure
Hi All. Upon reviewing the conductor score for a Big Band chart I noticed measures where the notes don't start until much of the way in the measure (measure 44) for a sax soli (see .png file). I recreated the notes by hand in empty measures just after the measure in question and copied them into the latter, but getting the same displacement. I tried adjusting measure size (shift - brace) but no luck in them correcting. Any ideas on fixing this? musescore file also attached. Thank you.
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Comments
It's caused by the element in the Drums staff having a manual X offset of -8.82sp.
If you really need that negative manual offset, turn off automatic placement for that element and the problem should go away.
In reply to It's caused by the element… by Spire42
Thanks so much. I turned off automatic placement but the displacement remained so set all offsets to zero but problem still remained. However, I made these changes on the Drum part, but I see not ALL features that are changed in a part are transferred to the conductor's score. I turned off all offsets in the conductor score and that did solve the problem. It appears the automatic placement transferred to the conductor's score but not the offsets.
My effort to make a 2 measure repeat in the Drum part was to move single measure repeats on adjacent measures together over the bar line between them, and put a staff text '2' above to indicate a repeated 2 - measure cycle. Do you know if there is a better way to do this in MS 3.x?
In reply to Thanks so much. I turned… by keenyk
also want to add that I tried to put attachments in at this point in the thread but they didn't take either by choosing file, or drag n drop.
In reply to Thanks so much. I turned… by keenyk
Add a 2-measure repeat sign from the symbols/master palette to the barline. This is visual only.
See https://musescore.org/en/node/103336 for a method with playback tricks as well.
In reply to Add a 2-measure repeat sign… by jeetee
Thanks jeetee. The latter link gave a recipe that included 'joining measures' but this is grayed out for me. Is there something else I need to do? (attached .png) Just thinking I may use this in the future.
In reply to Thanks jeetee. The latter… by keenyk
Joining measures is disabled if parts are already generated. Best to hold off on generating parts until towards the end of the process.
In reply to Thanks so much. I turned… by keenyk
> I turned off automatic placement but the displacement remained so set all offsets to zero but problem still remained.
I was suggesting that you turn off automatic placement just for that specific element in that specific measure in the Drum staff. Turning it off globally is way overkill and almost certainly a bad idea.
In reply to > Thanks so much. I turned… by Spire42
The problem included several measures, actually, so it corrected all measures. Thanks for your tip.
In reply to Thanks so much. I turned… by keenyk
The way to add the two measure repeat is to add the appropriate symbol from the Symbols palette. As of recent releases (starting in 3.3 I think) you can attach the symbol directly to barline, so no need to disable autoplace when positioning it.
Ooops, I see I'm basically saying the same as jeetee above...
In reply to The way to add the two… by Marc Sabatella
Thank you jeetee and Marc. A much more delicious way. I was using a suggestion from an old thread of moving two singles together, without knowing it would mess up other features. .png fix attached. and one would have to make the elements invisible within the measure, I presume.
In reply to Thank you jeetee and Marc. … by keenyk
Also, I would like to add I used Cmd (cntrl) - click to choose the measures, made all invisible. Then used Cmd (cntrl) - lick to select the relevant bar lines and did a copy and paste to put the repeat symbol in.
In reply to Also, I would like to add I… by keenyk
Also, the changes I made in the full score did not transfer to the individual Drum part. I had Saved, then closed the program and reopened it to see if that would help but the changes did not transfer. Is it true that some features once changed in either the individual instrument part, or the full score, will not automatically appear in the other?
In reply to Also, the changes I made in… by keenyk
Manual adjustments don't, because those very often won't make sense (eg, an adjustment to avoid a collision with another marking in the score very likely won't apply in the part).
In reply to Thank you jeetee and Marc. … by keenyk
oops, also meant to say I used Shift - click to choose the measure, and then made the elements invisible.