[web site] "Languages" drop down menu not in alphabetical order

• Sep 30, 2011 - 09:06

I believe some new languages appeared very recently in the "Languages" drop down menu appearing in each web site page.

This is very good! However, finding specific languages has become even more a "hide and catch" task: looking for "Nederlands" before "Esperanto", for "Italiano" after "Magyar" and "Bahasa Indonesia" or for "Español" after "Slovenščina" is confusing.

It is evident that language names are sorted according to the name they have in English ("Dutch" -> "Nederlands", "Hungarian" -> "Magyar", etc...), but the result looks odd to say the least.

Is it possible and wouldn't it be better to have them sorted according their actually wording?

As we are at it, I have the feeling that names not in Latin alphabet or, even more, not in an alphabetic script at all, should be kept a part, perhaps all together (at the end of the list?).

This is particularly true for non-alphabetic scripts: listing فارسی (Farsi) after Faroese may make some sense (but not after Norsk as now!) but, IMHO, mixing 简体中文 (jiǎntǐ Zhōngwén), 繁體中文 (fángtǐ Zhōngwén) or 日本語 (Nihongo) in the main alphabetic sequence does not (regardless they are sorted in the "correct" (?) place, i.e. under J, F, and N resp. or, as now, under C for Chinese and J for Japanese)





Wikipedia lists languages in "alphabetical order" of the original language names, where languages not written in Roman letters are ordered by their Romanised form. So 日本語 (Japanese/Nihongo) comes after, um, Nepalese? and before Nynorsk. Russian is under 'R'; it just looks like 'P'. Following the Wikipedia order would make sense, not because it's obviously "right", but because lots of people will be used to it. And it's simple to check the Wiki entry for "music", which will show the names of all languages that have music.

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Indeed, I followed the Wikipedia way of listing languages. If someone has a better default way of listing all these languages, don't hesitate to reopen this issue.

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I don't see that, "Deutsch" is still at the position where German should be (between Galician/Galego and Greek)
rather than between Dansk and Eesti like in Wikipedia

And the same applies to:

Euskera (filed where Basque would be)
Hrvatski (   "   Croatian   "   )
Nederlans (   "   Dutch   "   )
Eesti (   "   Estonian   "   )
Suomi (   "   Finnish   "   )
Ελληνικά (   "   Greek   "   )
Español (   "   Spanish   "   )

I can't tell if perhaps this update somehow isn't filtering through yet, but as I look at the dropdown list, most of the non-Roman language names I can read are in the wrong place. You still have:

<option value="/it">Italiano</option>
<option value="/ja">日本語</option>
<option value="/ko">한국어</option>
<option value="/lt">Lietuvių</option>

Where 日本語 (ja) should be between Nederlands and Norsk, and 한국어 (Hangug-eo according to my dictionary) should be somewhere delicately close to Hebrew, assuming Hebrew is in the right place.)

Also, Russian should surely follow Romanian.

Well, Wikipedia is your friend. Usually.
Brian Chandler