Add palette of bagpipe doublings
Entering bagpipe embellishments is very tedious in MuseScore, as all grace notes have to be entered manually one at a time. This would be considerably easier if embellishments were available from a palette for drag and drop.
See http://musescore.org/en/node/13001
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I would like to make this feature request more general and make it: "ability to create & share custom palettes with special symbols". Each typesetter may have his own set of symbols. So the main question remains whether we would stuff up MuseScore with more palettes or make palettes ex/importable and let people share them on musescore.org.
+1 to this request.
I support this request.
Initial implementation of palette with bagpipe doublings is available in pull request #340. Would like to get feedback from the bagpipers:
- does the user interface work OK
- does the palette look OK
- etc.
Note that the list of doublings is still incomplete, I will complete it after I get confirmation everything works OK.
Available in the trunk as of commit a8feda3.
To prevent confusion: this covers the bagpipe palette. It does not cover Thomas request for "ability to create & share custom palettes with special symbols".
+1 for this request.
I am currently writing up/importing my band's settings, so I created my own template to copy the embellishments over. However, I had to copy over the previous note, including it's value which of course overwrote the previous note value. So I had to make a copy of each embellishment from each note value from semi quaver to semibreve. It was incredibly tedious. The template would be fantastic.
Sorry, if this is a noob question, but I just signed up when I saw this, how do I download the test version?
And also, reposting from facebook. The bagpipes are pitched in Db (the bagpipe A is sounds as a concert Bb). However in Musecore they appear to be pitched in D, or is it C?
Also, they only play in Eb Major, from Ab on the staff to Bb above it (written as D Major G to A).
This would be really helpful for composing orchestral pieces with the pipes.
You can download a nightly here http://musescore.org/en/download scroll down to nightly and choose your platform. Would be great if you can give feedback on the bagpipe palette and on the instrument setting.
Talking about the Bagpipe palette, it would probably be better if the name was just "Bagpipe" instead of "Bagpipe embellishments".
Renamed palette and other updates (more embellishments, improved drawing) in pull request 434.
Thank you for the PR. It has been merged. The drawing of the beam could be thicker maybe?
Done (pull request 442)
Ok. We are getting close.
* The bounding box of the palette elements is probably off. When one drag one of the ornament, there is "trace" in the scoreview.
* the single note embelishment needs hooks instead of beam.
Working on it.
Bounding box was not set at all, I did not notice the traces as I typically use double click in the palette instead of drag and drop.
Using a hook instead of beams is easy, but was low on my list of things to do.
Pull request #450.
Can't wait for this feature! Great to see this being added in the next release.
Would it be possible to update the unstable ppa to a nightly snapshot so I can take it for a spin on Ubuntu?
There are nightlies for ubuntu but not via PPA http://prereleases.musescore.org/linux/nightly/
Contact the ppa maintainer if you want.
Has there been any progress on this? It still appears to be open. I had originally intended to test this and provided feedback, but life got in the way. There was this one conversation that I have found:
//musescore.org/node/22169
I have downloaded the nightly build and it has a palette of bagpipe embellishments, but I can't drag them onto the staff, and the embellishments in the palette don't have staff lines, so it is difficult to see which embellishments they are.
You can switch the staff lines on, right-click->properties->show staff
But yes, they should be on by default...
Something happened to the bagpipe embellishment palette around the time of the initial SMuFL integration.
It does not work now. Attached is how it appears in the master palette. The right-click->properties->show staff can be done only if the palette is enabled in the Palette menu (for example, by adding it to the Palette menu, or using the Advanced workspace). However, even if the staff is on in the icon of the palette, drag-and-drop or double-click do not add the bagpipe embellishment to the score.
Windows 8, commit ab14241 (self-built).
The implementation was feature complete (and functional) as far as I was concerned around end of August. The only reason the status is still active is that we have asked for feedback, but hardly got any. I haven't looked at it for a few months (I am not a bagpiper myself, so I don't actively use it).
Will look into it, as it is supposed to work. Once it works again, I do need feedback to make sure it is actually useful for the bagpipers.
Agree with comments #17 and #19 - sorry I haven't had time to get round to commenting and extensive testing, my band had its first public appearance last week. In the run up we were having to manually create all embellishments using single grace notes - sheesh.
Is it possible to create your own palette, so that only the most commonly used embellishments are available, with all the rest in the master palette? In reality, whilst a piper may need access to all of the embellishments at some point, we only use 10-12 commonly.
Should be working again after Werner and lasconic re-enabled it in the sources
Just built the current trunk: it is indeed working again. The note head size is incorrect (too large) in the menu. Will fix that shortly.
Fix for note head size issue waiting to be merged (pull request #607).
In response to #21: yes, you can easily create custom palettes. If you only need a limited set of embellishments, just create a new (empty) palette and drag and drop the ones you need from the master palette onto your custom palette.
See http://musescore.org/en/handbook/custom-palettes.
Fix has been merged (commit 15139dc), please test. Any feedback is welcome.
Thanks for the work Leon - looking better and better now. Two issues I've noted:
1) If embellishments are copied into a new palette, the tooltips no longer work, and this would be useful. I can't find an option anywhere to switch these on (though this could be User Error...)
2) Definitely not user error: if a bar of music with embellishments is copied and pasted, all grace notes are transposed by a semitone. Damned annoying, and makes it impossible to copy and paste bars quickly - and in pipe music lots of bars are duplicated between tune parts. Not sure if the issue is related to key sig; when setting up a new score, I'm not selecting the key sig (defaults to CMaj) - this is automatically inserted to the score as DMaj. I note, however, that the main tune is unaffected in the copy/paste, just the grace notes.
Other than that - all looking good - cheers.
Bagpipe embellishments are to be found in the palette using the Advanced workspace in MuseScore 2.