Multiple tuplet triplets and a octuplet in a 4/4 measure

• Nov 25, 2016 - 16:03

I really need a step by step explain it to a child explanation about how to put up to three, triple tuplet sixteenth notes all ending with a single eighth note connected to each other and 32nd note octuplet all in the same 4/4 measure with no rests in the measure at all. I don't know how to do this with this software and someone has done it before but I don't know how. Please help! All that I am getting from replies from the musescore is a video on tuplets but I need someone to reply with something more advanced!!!

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I take it you are trying to recreate the bottom line in the picture.

select the rest in the measure.
press 4 (you will get a 1/8th rest)
ctrl-3 (the 8th rest will turn into 3 1/16th rests with the first one highlighted)
D (if this is too low of an octave press ctrl- and the up arrow to move it up an octave or down arrow to move it down an octave) - all the rest of the notes should end up in the correct octave for this example
S E F S (you now have 3 slurred 1/16th notes, the S toggles slur on and off)
4 G ctrl s (1/8th note with staccato)
4 ctrl-3
E S F G S 4 A ctrl s (next four notes completed)
4 ctrl-3
F S G A S 4 B (third group of notes, now of the octupulet!)
5 ctrl-8 (your 1/4 note will turn into 8 32nd notes) - I edited the first number of this line after submitting!
G S A B B C D E F S

Happy dance! If I told you the buttons correctly, which I think I did.

You can also enter tuplets directly while in note input mode - no need to create them with outside of note entry mode first. The example you are showing is actually quite simple and doesn't involve anything not shown in the Handbook or tutorial video. You want three sixteenths in the space that would normally be a single eighth note. So the complete key sequence is:

1) N (to enter note input mode)
2) 4 (to select eighth note as the total duration of the tuplet)
3) Ctrl+3 (to divide it into thirds)
4) D E F (to enter the three notes of the tuplet
5) 4 (to select eighth note again for the last note of the group)
6) G (to enter the final eighth note

The beaming is all handled automatically.

The last grouping is not a tuplet at all - those are just perfectly normal 32nds. So simply press 2 to select 32nd and enter the notes. Again, the beaming is handled automatically. And everything in your example adds up to 4 beats, so assuming you are in 4/4 time, there won't be any rests - again, this all happens automatically.

Definitely worth spending some time reading the Handbook section on note input and watching all the videos to get a sense for how this works.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

That helped a great deal!! I am used to doing it manually and it was not working at all it put a 32nd note in the middle triple group and I had no clue what it was doing. :) I have successfully got it! I watch every tutorial video on it but I had no clue it would not do it unless I typed it on my laptop key pad. Thank you!!

In reply to by Bondslave

You're welcome!

To be clear, though: you don't *have* to do it by typing. That's just the easiest way, both to actually do and also to explain. But if you prefer using your mouse, you can use the note input toolbar to select the eighth note instead of pressing the shortcut "4", you can use "Notes / Tuplets / Triplets" instead of the shortcut "Ctrl+3", and you can click on the staff to enter notes instead of simply typing their names. The tutorials probably show clicking it is easier to see what is happening in a video, since the keyboard doesn't appear, but either way works, exactly the same steps.

My guess is you made the mistake of selecting the sixteenth note before creating the triplet and that is why you ended up with 32nds. The key is that you need to select the *total* duration for the triplet - not the duration of any given note in it - before creating the triplet. Whether you do this using the keyboard or the mouse is immaterial. The way it works is, again, identical either way. First select the *total* duration for the tuplet (using either mouse or keyboard, doesn't matter which) then divide it into thirds (again using either mouse or keyboard, doesn't matter which).

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