Symphonic Sounds Updated

• Jan 2, 2017 - 18:19


Westgate Trumpet Sus - not looped, different timbres at different velocities, same FF samples as westgate ff

French Horn UoI - not looped, faked different velocity levels.

EWQL Crotales(antique cymbals) - from EastWest's free library. These are chromatic percussion, not a drumset.

3 celli Soli - Because I've had a need for smaller string groupings than either solo or a large orchestra section. Created by combining Cadenza, Ethan and Kanilla's Cellos.

Guiros to the Percussion soundfont - a downstroke and an upstroke. Samples are from a collection of 89 guiro sounds someone posted on the kvr forums. They're right above the ratchet, keys 74 & 75, I believe.

Viola Solo - I don't actually remember where I grabbed this from, but it sounds pretty good.

Moved and renamed: Cadenza Viola to Soli Viola Cad. Soli, because it actually sounds like a small viola group as opposed to a solo instrument. If you check the sound font, it's solo viola + a section, so that seems a bit more accurate anyway.

I have my own clarinet half-done. I'll probably post that seperately, with Bb and A - there are *not* enough clarinet soundfonts that sound anything close to reality.

To get to gongs/guiros/snare and triangle rolls, make a drumset, make sure 'drumset' is checked in the mixer, pick 'Percussion' from the drop down menu, and when you start adding notes, go to edit drumset in the box at the bottom, and load this:

If you want to edit it yourself, the gong sounds are keys 67, 68, and 69.

Attachment Size
SSODrumset.drm 4.79 KB


I don't know what the other Soundfonts are licensed under, but I know that EWQL is not CC or Public Domain, thus, these sounds can't be freely used in a soundfont. Sorry.
Be careful to check licensing before posting conglomerate Soundfonts. Also, check the licensing on all (I know that then UIowa sounds and Ethan's Cello is fine in regards to licensing, so you can still use those) sounds that you have already uses. If no information on the license is posted anywhere, that means all rights are reserved on the work, and the sounds cannot be used in another soundfont or redistributed. Look for any Creative Commons license that allow for redistribution (make sure all proper attribution is made if required) or Public Domain sounds.

Best of luck in this project and hopefully you find good samples that are free to use and distribute.

In reply to by Laurelin

Sadly, not copy protected is not the same as not copyrighted. Copy protection is the process of making samples unreadable by any source other than the intended software (I believe the copy protection for EWQL comes on the form of a dongle that costs about $25), so it's saying that you don't have to buy the $25 dongle.

Sorry. I could see where the confusion came from with such confusing wording.

In reply to by Laurelin

as long as you manipulated the sound a little bit
you are fine to deliver them

but you know
being too honest in the reality might get you into trouble :)

illegal sampling has been existing among commercial sample libraries for many years
so yea ...don't worry
just don't be too honest and claim them as your sound designs :)

In reply to by vintagesamples

Manipulating a copyrighted work doesn't make it a free work, unless the manipulation is "transformative". That's a legal term with debatable meaning. A copyrighted work manipulated in a way that isn't transformative is a "derivative work". The changes can be separately copyrighted, but the rights to a derivative work as a whole belong to the creator of the original work.

You wanna know where the Viola SoundFont came from? Well, The SoundFont came from my own orchestra SoundFonts Collection.

To start off, these Viola Samples came from "No Budget Orchestra," which has a very good Viola Solo Sound, so that's why I also included it in the New Version of the MuseScore Orchestra SoundFont, Brandenburg Ensemble SoundFont, and Musica Barocca SoundFont, (Even in Alexis Van Sint Jan's SoundFont too!!!).

Now you know what I'm talking about!!!

"Viola Solo - I don't actually remember where I grabbed this from, but it sounds pretty good."

It does, especially the C string. Similarly, your AA violin solo which I am also using, has a rich G string. All other strings sound good, as for how good, I need to re-acclimate my ears after working with fonts w headphones for so long. (There may be a slight drop off in intensity at f and above with the higher strings.)
The violin blew me away with a pause on B5 at a fermata, the way the sound did not merely stop, but rather trailed off into the ambience. (Synth REV set a noon.)

Hello! I installed Symphonic Sounds like six months ago, and I must say, what an amazing work. I first downloaded the sf2 just to use it with percussion, but now I want the soundfont to work with all the instruments. The problem is, when I switch the sf2 order in the synthesizer, all the sounds get messed up: the picollo plays like a violin, the trumpet like celesta, and so on. This is probably an easy question, but how do I solve this? What am I doing wrong?
Thank you

In reply to by Tiago Simas

Simple solution:
The instruments in the file are not in GM compatible order. Instead, they are listed in the order in which they would appear on a symphonic score. Therefore you have to open up the mixer and be sure the instrument matches that in the window "sound:" scroll down the sound list to find one which matches.

For example: you pick trombone. Open sound window and scroll down until you find the trombone sound you want.

Also: be careful when sliding cursor arrow over mixer as you may inadvertently alter some of the sound choices.

Hey. First of all, This is hands down my favorite soundfont and I can't thank you enough for making it, but I was wondering if every note above Db 5 (midi note 73) in the SSO and SGM Horns being nearly inaudible (in comparison to the others, anyway) is intentional, and if there is a possibility of fixing it or a workaround of some kind?

In reply to by Ludwig van Benteuer

i always envied people who know right away whats good and whats not good. so many hours of my life i have wasted trying this and trying that, compairing,... and so many times coming to the wrong conclusion.
you are blessed, my friend, im sure one day you will be president of a great nation (if you arent already).

Hello there~~~~
May I ask a abrupt question?
I'd want to know how did you create these .drm files.
Can they only be recorded or there are methods that a newbie like I am haven't touched
(Looking forward for your reply:)

Hey there,

what is the most current and "most legal" version of the soundfont? By "most legal" I mean with all the original sources and authors properly referred to and without stuff that's not licensed to be re-used?

Okay, so I'm trying to figure out if there's to stop notes whole notes from getting cut short if they're held for "too-long". I get it, air is a thing, and musicians can run out of air when they're playing. However, since being able to hold a note out for a long period of time is a skill and more of a variable from musician to musician, I don't understand why the soundfont would do this. It's very frustration when I'm trying to write something, and the trumpets cut out halfway through a chord. If I can disable this, please let me know, it would be appreciated.

In reply to by WyattA_Music

It's actually the opposite way: more work is needed. We only have however long the sample is. You can loop it in a soundfont editor, but you need to be careful. I think she looped it though, because I don't notice it with mine. The link at the top of this discussion is version 1.1 I believe it was looped in version 1.2. I would recommend downloading version 2.1. Here is the link.

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