Bar numbers
This is pretty basic. I hope there is a solution for it.
A repeat is set up for two parts.
The repeat lasts for 16 bars.
So at the end of the repeat we have played 32 bars.
But the following bar is numbered 17, not 33 !!!
Why is it a problem?
Because the lead part doesn't have any repeated parts!
So when the lead/conductor part gets to bar 33 say, the other two parts are looking at bar number 17.
So when the conductor stops and says let's begin from bar 36, what is going to happen?
Comments
One way...
Right click on the bar number 17.
Click on 'Measure Properties', then in the popup window look for 'Other' - 'Add to measure no.'
Enter 16.
(17 + 16 will give 33, with each succeeding bar number adjusted.)
Regards.
P.S. But what happens when the conductor stops and says let's begin from bar 24?
In reply to Add to measure number by Jm6stringer
Thanks jm!
"P.S. But what happens when the conductor stops and says let's begin from bar 24?"
Good question.
I think a solution would be to create one of those text boxes that could sit on the left margin next to a new stave. In the stave I could write something like:
4
20
8
24 etc.
I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you've created parts for different instruments manually rather than creating the score first then extracting the parts automatically? Had you done the latter, all measure numbers would be in sync. But if you for whatever reason chose to create the parts individually, it's kind of up to you to make sure you do so the same way. If you fail to do that, you can right click a measure and go to measure properties and add an offset to the measure number to work around the error you made in not having the parts in sync. But better yet, just fix the error and make all parts have the same structure - which again happens automatically if you start from the score and extract parts rsther than try to create parts manually one at a time.
In reply to I'm not sure I understand. by Marc Sabatella
Thanks for helping Marc!
"I'm not sure I understand. Are you saying you've created parts for different instruments manually rather than creating the score first then extracting the parts automatically? Had you done the latter, all measure numbers would be in sync. "
Yes that's correct. I'm quite new to Musescore and haven't/hadn't figured out how to do the extraction parts yet (see my earlier post).
So I decided to take my 3-part score and save it as a master (a long 10 page master).
Then I deleted two parts, and saved it as Part 1.
Then I worked on Part 1, adding lyrics etc.
Went back to the master and did the same for parts two and three adding lyrics, a 16 bar repeat, etc.
The good thing is that for these two parts, everything fits on one page (because of the repeat).
"But if you for whatever reason chose to create the parts individually, it's kind of up to you to make sure you do so the same way."
What do you mean by "do so the same way"?
"But better yet, just fix the error and make all parts have the same structure - which again happens automatically if you start from the score and extract parts rsther than try to create parts manually one at a time."
But how do you make all parts have the same structure?
That would mean I couldn't have parts two and three repeating after bar 16, right?
But the reason I put in a repeat for these two parts is that I wanted those two parts to fit into just one page, which they now do.
(It says that lines and paragraphs break automatically, but it doesn't seem to be doing that with my posts here)
In reply to Thanks for helping Marc! by ScoreMark
Usually I make a score with all parts and use this http://musescore.org/en/handbook/part-extraction to extract the parts.
The "Box" with numbers or usually letters is called a rehearsal mark and is made by selecting the first note of the bar you want it to mark and then selecting Cntrl/m. You can add whatever text you want in the box that appears.
In reply to Usually I make a score with by xavierjazz
"The "Box" with numbers or usually letters is called a rehearsal mark and is made by selecting the first note of the bar you want it to mark and then selecting Cntrl/m. You can add whatever text you want in the box that appears."
Cool, thanks very much for that tip!
I watched a video where a fellow added re-sizable boxes in the right and left margins which could be moved/enlarged etc.
He used them actually to squeeze the bars in the middle of the page so they became more condensed. It was very interesting.
In reply to Thanks for helping Marc! by ScoreMark
By "do the same way", i mean if one part does something different in bars X-Y than in bars Y-Z and therefore has it written out without a repeat, then all parts need to do the same. Even if some part happens to have the same thing in X-Y as Y-Z, you write it out twice.
This came up twice last night in a band I direct. Two different charts produced in the bad old days before notation software, where some people had a letter I with repeats around it and other people had separate letters I and J. I had no score to conduct from. Wasted way too much rehearsal tome sorting that all out. I'd say "let's take it at letter I", someone would say "first or second time?", and others would say "there's no repeat at I".
This is exactly the aa,e sort of sotuation you are creating by having parts with different structures. If anyone has something different at letters I and J, that means their part can't simply put repeats marks I and call it doen, and therefore neither should anyone else's. Evev the people who play the same thing twice in a row at i, you have to write it out twice, call the first I and the second J. That way everyone's i is the same place, and so is everyone's J. It's just simlle common sense.
Edit: it's truet hat writing out a section unnecessarily might make a part take an extra page. i absolutely postiviely guarantee it will be worth it. The confusion that results from mismatched measure numbers wastes everyone's time every time the piece is ever played, and does not reflect well on the arranger (makes me never want to play another of their areangemenets).
In reply to By "do the same way", i mean by Marc Sabatella
"By "do the same way", i mean if one part does something different in bars X-Y than in bars Y-Z and therefore has it written out without a repeat, then all parts need to do the same. Even if some part happens to have the same thing in X-Y as Y-Z, you write it out twice.
This came up twice last night in a band I direct...
... The confusion that results from mismatched measure numbers wastes everyone's time every time the piece is ever played, and does not reflect well on the arranger (makes me never want to play another of their areangemenets)."
Thanks Marc.
I hear ya' loud and clear.
For a big band/orchestra score I would do the same.
In this particular case, it would be just a trio; myself and two vocalists.
Since I wouldn't have to climb over band members and injure myself in the process, the convenience of a one page score vs. the odd time we might have to figure out our place at a rehearsal favors the former.
I think I'll add some dual bar markers just in case (5/21) etc.