Can a digital score contain hidden tempo markings.

• Jul 17, 2018 - 08:02

I have a digital score, which someone else created. It seems to slow down and speed up in places. I'm wondering how and why it does it. I suppose there might be features I don't yet understand. Once I understand them, I'll want to make some tempo adjustments.

Maybe the easiest way to talk about it is to attach the score, so here it is. Assistance appreciated. It seems to speed up around measure 23, slow around measure 27, speed up again around measure 30, and so on. Thanks in advance.

Mattinata.Solfege.Key of E.2.duplicate.mscz


There are indeed invisible tempo markers in m22 and m27. The creator of that score not only made them invisible, but also changed their text to become an asterisk (*) which is why they're not that obvious to discover at first.

Make sure View → Show Inivisble… is checked. Click on one of the light-grey *'s. Check out the status bar on the bottom of the window and the Inspector (F8) where you can see that those are in fact tempo markings.

In reply to by Timborino

It's explained in the handbook under Tempo:

The first thing is to create a Tempo marking from the Tempo palette. Then in the Inspector (F8) you must uncheck the box "Follow text", so that you can set the speed in BPM (beats per minute) independently of the displayed text. After that, you can edit the visual text to asterisk *, "T" or whatever convention you decide - and then make the tempo mark invisible in the Inspector.

In reply to by DanielR

"uncheck the box "Follow text", so that you can set the speed in BPM (beats per minute) independently of the displayed text"

Sorry, I don't quite get that. What's the difference between speed in BPM vs. displayed text?

Otherwise, I appreciate your assistance.


In reply to by Timborino

When you enter a tempo, it starts of as something like a Quarter note (the symbol for it) = 80. You can change the tempo to something like 132 and MuseScore will play at 132 BPM rather than 80. If you remove the check from "Follow Text", the box below it becomes active and you can set the tempo (based always on the quarter note) and any tempo text will be ignored. This means you can then change the 80 to 132 and MuseScore will continue to play at 80 BPM. The good thing about this is that you can now change the text to "Andante" or even "*" if you like.

In reply to by Timborino

You can change the text of a tempo marking just like any other text in MuseScore; double click it to put it into edit mode, then type and ESC out of it. For tempo markings specifically, you'll likely also want to clear the 'follow text' option.

You can make it invisible (as almost any other element as well) by selecting it and either toggle the visibility in the Inspector or use the 'toggle visibility' shortcut V

In reply to by jeetee

Hi, I have an example where the view -----------> show invisble ,or shortcut V doesn't work. May I know why? I am attaching the original musescore file, and then a screenshot of a measure that I highlited. When Highlited it shows some fermatas that are not visible when not highlited, even if I checked the box to show invisble in the view menu. Thanks.

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In reply to by FedericoPacheco

The screenshot which you uploaded is from a different score: compare the ledger lines in Piano RH at measure 24. In your uploaded score there is only one hidden fermata in m.24 (and a hidden Pedal line):

As Marc mentioned, various elements (fermata, pedal line) had been hidden by changing the font colour to white. The new version of your score (attached ) has all fermatas and pedal lines made visible with font colour = blue. This reveals three hidden fermatas in m.8, one hidden fermata in m.24, and many pedal lines throughout the piece.

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In reply to by FedericoPacheco

There is only one way to make them invisible.
Then there is a way to make them transparent.
And then there is a way to purposefully paint them in a color which might or might not be the same as the paper background. Make your paper background a different color and they'll no longer be "hidden". It is by far the less obvious way to make things "invisible" and thus a poor choice; but so would be preventing painting something in a color. If you'd want to prevent this, then what could possibly be a "good" color similarity threshold?

The only way to make things is invisible is exactly that; mark them invisible. It's also the only way to have those elements not influence the layout of other score elements.

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