Musescore export to .musicXML
I have been using Musescore for a while creating PDF for use with Piascore which has been fine.
Recently I have been trying Newzik which allows you to playback the tune as well as having thefacility to change key in the App. The only thing is it has to use .musicxml files. I thought it would be no problem as Musescore does export to .muscxml, but irrespective of what I tried it comes up with the attached file . I can live with the format but I was expecting the tabs as shown in the other PDF. can you advise on why this is the case and how I can correct this. Whiskey Before Breakfast Mandolin (.musicxml).pdf Whiskey_Before_Breakfast_Mandolin.pdf
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Can you attach here the score (*.mscz)?
In reply to Can you attach here the… by Shoichi
This is the original. Whiskey_Before_Breakfast_Mandolin.mscz mscz
In reply to This is the original. … by mradson68@gmail.com
That is a 2.0.3 score, upggrade at least to 2.3.2 or (and) even to 3.2.3
MuseScore 2.0.3 exports to .xml, not .musicxml (both are MusicXML format though)
Attached the results of exporting that score with MuseScore 2.3.2 and 3.2.3, on Windows 7
In reply to That is a 2.0.3 score,… by Jojo-Schmitz
Sorry this is one I downloaded from this site but I have tried with ones exported from 2.3.2 with the same result. the tabs are in some double figures not in the proper tabs for the music see the attachment to my first post. irrespective of that the .musicxml is not correctly formatted.
In reply to Sorry this is one I… by mradson68@gmail.com
Two mandolins?
The mscz file is saved with 3.2.
In reply to Two mandolins? The mscz file… by Shoichi
Thank you for that but It is still not producing the output I would expect, this time blank tabs see attached Whiskey Before Breakfast MandolinBis.pdf
In reply to Sorry this is one I… by mradson68@gmail.com
Hmm, I'm not sure MusicXML can properly export tablatur.
But that is an entirely different problem from your initial post, isn't it?
Oh, I guess not, I was missreading, and with tabs you mean tablature...
In reply to Hmm, I'm not sure MusicXML… by Jojo-Schmitz
No that was a different problem with the version 3 of the software regarding generation Pdfs. This is relating to being able to generate the music standard MusicXML that can be used in other software but that is not the case. I will try some other software Apps to see if the file will import properly. The PDF generated by Musescore is exactly as expected, I had assumed the MusicXML would be the same with the exception of having the midi included in the file but apparently not.
In reply to No that was a different… by mradson68@gmail.com
MuseScore can export standard notation music as MusicXML, but (apparently) not tablature notation. Or maybe it can export it but not import, not sure.
MusicXML doesn't have MIDI included, why should it? That's what MIDI export is for
If you use File > Export and select musicxml als the output?
In reply to If you use File > Export and… by Jojo-Schmitz
Have done that with several of my pieces as well as this one download from this site all with the same result, nothing to do with the version of software.
See the two attached PDF files in the first post.
In reply to Have done that with several… by mradson68@gmail.com
What Operating system?
In reply to What Operating system? by Jojo-Schmitz
Mac OS Mojave. Note: the Pdf was generated from the Newzik App which used .musicxml but when opened the tabs are not generating correctly. I suspected it might be the app put if you look at the thread you will see the newer version 3 generated supplied .musicxml opens with blank tabs so not even consistent.
In reply to Mac OS Mojave. Note: the… by mradson68@gmail.com
Related to: https://musescore.org/en/node/269476 ?
In reply to Related to: https:/… by Shoichi
different problem, that was to do with the PDF and that's the reason I dumped version 3 of the software and went back to version 2.3.2.
In reply to different problem, that was… by mradson68@gmail.com
Maybe start a new thread on whatever that problem was? In general, nothing about PDF export should be different between the two versions, just tons more bugs and fewer features when you downgrade to MuseScore 2.
BTW, MuseScore 3 didn't exist back in February 2018, so I think you might be misremembering.
MuseScore does do playback and transposing too
In reply to MuseScore does do playback… by Jojo-Schmitz
I am aware of that. But I expect that the software would generate compatible musicxml considering that is the industry standard that is useable in other software.
We use IPads and Piascore to share when playing and usually use pdf sheet music. But to transpose we have to take it back to musescore. Newzik app offered the same features as Piascore but if we used musicxml instead of pdf we could transpose in the app and have the facility to playback the tune as it was written. This is the attraction to using Newzik, but if the musicxml generated by musescore is not compatible then we cannot use it. I cannot understand why it will not generate the correct tabs. But should it not be logged as a fault?
In reply to I am aware of that. But I… by mradson68@gmail.com
Maybe, but right now it's not clear where the problem is - I see several different files attached if different formats, different programs mentioned, etc. I gather the problem is one particular MuseScore file that you opened In MuseScore, verified it looked correct thetr, then exported as MusicXML, and then imported the file into some other program and it did not look correct there? In which case it's either a problem with our export or their import. Could you attach just the one MSCZ file for us to check?
In reply to Maybe, but right now it's… by Marc Sabatella
Marc
I use Musescore 2.3.2 and have over 100 pieces created. I then export to Pdf and use Piascore as the iPad viewer for all of us. I came across Newzik software for iPad which offered i all the features of Piascore but with the addition of being able to transpose in the app ( handy when rehearsing and wanting to change key) and to play the piece as written within the App. To achieve these features, the piece needs to be in MusicXML format and not Pdf. I therefore exported, within Musescore, the piece in Music XML and imported it into Newzik which produced the page as per the attached Pdf which was downloaded from the NewZik app. Reiver's Galley.mscz Reiver's Galley.pdf.
This is the Pdf generated by Musescore and I was what expecting to see this or something very similar when opening the musicxml in Newzik. Reiver's Galley (musescore generated).pdf
Andrew
In reply to Marc I use Musescore 2.3.2… by mradson68@gmail.com
This makes clear that either MuseScore doesn't export Tablature properly to MusicXML or that NewZik doesn't properly import it.
If it is MuseScore export, the question is whether 3(.2.3) does a better job than 2(.3.2) here, the latter surely won't get fixed anymore.
In reply to This makes clear that either… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo
I done the same exercise using Musecore 3 and this time the when I opened the musicxml in Newzik the Tabature was blank.
Andrew
In reply to Jojo I done the same… by mradson68@gmail.com
What happens when you import the exported musicxml back into MuseScore (using file > open and select it)?
But still.. a sample score would be so much more helpful than reading our guesses of the moment, and waiting for feedback..
In reply to What happens when you import… by jeetee
There is a sample score above, attached here again.
'Importing' this MuseScore 2(.3.2) score into MuseScore 3(.2.3) and exporting as MusicXML, then importing that again results in an error message:
Fataler Fehler: Zeile 40 Spalte 19 Beim Element credit fehlt ein Unterelement.
Ignoring that seems to work though.
Well, it hung on 2nd try...
In reply to What happens when you import… by jeetee
Jeetee
Interesting question well for both Musescore 2.3.2 and Musescore 3 we get the same result?
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. As you see it does not accept its own generated file. but this may help to locate the problem.
In reply to Jeetee Interesting question… by mradson68@gmail.com
Try "Yes" to load anyway. Yes, that error is something we'd need to fix in MuseScore, but for the Tablature ex- and import I think there's no problem, so your Newzik app's MusicXML import seems to be at fault.
In reply to Jeetee Interesting question… by mradson68@gmail.com
In both cases if you say yes the file does open but the stying has been lost. Musescore 2.3.2 is closer to what was inputed but some of the styling is lost. Musescore 3 genreates a totally different style Reiver's Galley.pdf .
In reply to In both cases if you say yes… by mradson68@gmail.com
What styling? But indeed MuseScore 2 and 3 do render scores differently, that's why there is a change in the major version number
In reply to What styling? by Jojo-Schmitz
The Layout and fonts that are shown in the earlier Musescore generated Pdf including page settings layout font etc. I know there are differences in versions and that was one reason why I reverted back to Musescore 2.3.2 rather than version 3 as I had too many files that would have to be reformatted in Musescore 3. I understand that you will not update an older version, if you find Musescore to be at fault, but I would need to be sure that Musescore 3 exported musicXml pieces can import into Newzik before I would consider reformatting all my pieces in Musescore 3.
In reply to The Layout and fonts that… by mradson68@gmail.com
Then try this
In reply to Then try this by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo
Have uploaded the musicxml file to Newzik and it is looking closer but back to original tablature numbering fault.
see attached Pdf Reiver's Galley3.pdf
Andrew
In reply to Jojo Have uploaded the… by mradson68@gmail.com
Which indicates that Newzik has an issue here, not MuseScore
In reply to Which indicates that Newzik… by Jojo-Schmitz
Jojo
thank you for your reply I cannot make any comment on where the issue lies but I will take it up with Newzik and get back to you on their comments, if any.
In reply to Jojo thank you for your… by mradson68@gmail.com
Compared the MuseScore 2.x and 3.x produced MusicXML: besides minor layout changes the content is identical.
To the best of my knowledge, the MusicXML produced by MuseScore is correct. I would be most interested in finding out why it is not accepted. Do you have MusicXML examples that are accepted by Newzik ?
In reply to Compared the MuseScore 2.x… by Leon Vinken
The "missing child" error does not reproduce on the current trunk.
In reply to The "missing child" error… by Leon Vinken
Oops, my mistake: the error does reproduce, but only with "export layout" enabled. Created issue #294174: [MusicXML export] invalid export element credit is missing child element