Invisible nōnempty partial staves?

• Feb 28, 2022 - 04:23

I am setting a score that switches between one-stave (unisono voices; which are labelled) and four-stave (SATB) writing. For this, I’m using instruments S/A/T/B/Voice/Piano.

However, to make making useful parts possible, I have copied all the notes into the S/A/T/B parts (and, similarily, for a possible Children part, the S notes in the four-stave part into the fifth one). Now I need to make them invisible.

I’ve already enabled hiding empty staves, but in hiding the nōnempty parts for a number of measures, I’m running into a problem.

I found the per-stave “visible” checkbox in Measure Properties, but making all measures in one line invisible for one stave… does not make the stave go away:

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So, how do I achieve this?


Comments

If I understand correctly, you have a staff at the top of the system that is not empty, but you've made the measures invisible, and now you want to close up the space?

You could use a fixed space for that, but better might be to step back and reconsider what you are trying to hide a non-empty staff to begin with. If it's to get the playback effect, better to add a new staff for that, so you can simply make it invisible in Edit / Instruments. Probably I'm misunderstanding something here, though. So, more context would help.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Seven staves in total: Soprano, Alto, Tenor, Bass, Children, 2×Piano

This is for SATB or Children (or both together). The verses are unisono, but not all voices sound all parts. They are put into the Children stave, with texts on top to indicate who sings. The refrain is SATB instead and put into those four staves.

For semantically correct operation (that is, the ability to extract meaningful parts), I’ve copied the Soprano part of the refrain into the Children stave (and want to make that invisible) and the Children part of the verses into those S/A/T/B staves where they are valid (and want to hide those).

For now I’ve put that aside, removed these copies again, added another always-hidden stave for the 8vb doubling when tutti sing, and am trying to layout that. It’ll look and playback (modulo not getting louder when switching from Soprano-only to Soprano+Alto, but that’s not a big matter) the same but be semantically different. It will not allow meaningful excerpts, for example (and, a small matter, a crescendo trailing the verse into the refrain needs manual adjustment of the line because I cannot add the dynamic properly or it fails to hide again).

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Yeah, this one, except with more notes in the hidden staves, and only if mu͒.com has a rights agreement with OUP (otherwise they’d probably/hopefully put it to private only).

Basically, this layout, but without the hacky hidden 8vb instrument, and with notes in S/A/T/B during verses and Children during refrain, so I can make useful parts/excerpts.

(I didn’t see yours linked in https://musescore.com/song/look_at_the_world-2223651 though… I know FREDIPI had one once, but I’ve started reviewing my incompletely typeset/reviewed or copied/downloaded music from the paper originals; back then I needed a dozen scores “next weekend” for a project choir and couldn’t spend the time. Found a couple of typos in the accompaniment, even.)

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