tie mark does not tie notes in muse sound violin solo1
ties do not tie notes in this instrument
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There is a tie effect, compage with the sound when removing the ties
... there is a difference between "tied" and "separate". But even with a tie I can still hear a very slight interruption, like a change of bowing direction. Maybe that is a deliberate implementation feature?
In reply to ... there is a difference… by DanielR
tie means that there is no separation, if you want that subtle separation you use slur instead. definitely is a bug. the software simply is ignoring that tie mark. muse sound violin solo2 and viola do not have that issue.
In reply to tie means that there is no… by 77humus
Report it on GitHub
In reply to Report it on GitHub by Jojo-Schmitz
i new here. i thought this was the place for reporting bugs
In reply to tie means that there is no… by 77humus
There is something not quite right, to be sure. I probably never noticed this particular problem because there are so many things I don't like about solo 1 that I don't even use it any more.
In reply to There is something not quite… by bobjp
what i find amusing about violin solo 1 is that it really does legato. i suggested having also vibrato control. pay instruments have bugs too. until now i do not know a violin solo with no sins.
In reply to what i find amusing about… by 77humus
BTW. This forum is for us users to post problems we have. Sometimes these issues are just user error. Sometimes they are software problems. once it can be agreed that there is a software problem, then the user escalates it to GitHub. That where developers will see it.
In reply to BTW. This forum is for us… by bobjp
oh, thank you for the guidance
In reply to tie means that there is no… by 77humus
Remove the tie and you'll see this is simply false - the tie is very obviously having an effect. I think others are correct here - you're just hearing the natural variation in the sound of the note as it was sampeld form the human player they recorded.
In reply to Remove the tie and you'll… by Marc Sabatella
removing the tie, of course, you will hear the clear note separation. adding it you still hear that separation in a subtle way. as i said, not matter the value of the notes tied the violin solo 1 will separate them. that is not the meaning and function of tie mark. the solo violin 2 and viola solo do not separate the notes, showing that the violin 1 has a bug in that feature. that is not a natural variation, that would be a bad technique if a violinist would not be able to tie notes imperceptibly...
I think it might be the bowing effect. You cannot hold a note forever, so string players change bow direction subtly to fix this. So does Muse Sounds. Of course, players could do a better job. The bow change might have just been at the wrong spot.
In reply to I think it might be the… by hamsandwichnow
i do not think that is the case here, mainly because this error happens with any value note ( whole, half, a note extending many bars). e. g. in a 3/4 bar having a half plus a quarter tied, the violin plays both notes. the bow has a lot more endurance than that. furthermore, there is a bow technique in which is possible to change the direction without interruption. also, the violin has no right to decide when to ignore the tie indication, lol.
In reply to i do not think that is the… by 77humus
Ok. I thought it was only one time.
In reply to i do not think that is the… by 77humus
OK. I don't think it is a case of solo 1 "ignoring" the tie. But it isn't quite playing it correctly. When I play the example several times, there can be a difference in playback.
As for a real player ignoring a tie. They get to do what they feel in the moment.
In reply to OK. I don't think it is a… by bobjp
what i mean by ignore, is not to perform the correct instruction which is play continuously without any kind of interruption ( nor subtle nor strong). the matter here is that the violin is not executing that instruction. i my self used to play a little of violin and cello and there is no that license for ignoring vital instructions like a tie or the bow being uncapable to play notes of any extent tied. you are supposing that some violinist somewhere decided to change the rules. but here is just a software that should follow the commands for what was programmed.
In reply to what i mean by ignore, is… by 77humus
What you are hearing has nothing to do with the tie - you can hear that by halving the tempo. You'll hear the same effect within the whole note, not just at the end up it. It's just the natural bow change and/or loop point in the sample. Nothing whatsoever to do with the tie. What you are hearing is presumably the same as reported in https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/issues/16340
In reply to What you are hearing has… by Marc Sabatella
That’s what I thought.
In reply to What you are hearing has… by Marc Sabatella
exactly, mark. that is the same bug already reported.