Special Repetition

• Feb 15, 2016 - 23:16

Let's say we have the following kernel of a music piece:

Intro | Part A | 1st end | 2nd end | Part B | Coda

I want to play it this way:

1) Intro

2) Part A & 1st end

3) Repeat from Part A to 2nd end

4) Part B

5) Come back to Part A, just one time, and then...

6) Coda

How can I explain it to MuseScore? ???

I've got what I want up to point 4.

Then MuseScore jump to Part A but... Then, it jump to Part B and then goes to Coda.

How can I fix it? ???

I include the file.

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Comments

There are two errors in your score. First, you have "DS al Fine" right where the first volta is, but presumably you really want a "To Coda" - probably in the measure *before* the volta. Also, where you have the "DS al Coda", you also have a repeat sign, but that's wrong - that should be a simple double bar.

I changed what you advised me to change.

But... At the Coda part, I need a repetition (from Segno to End 1) and then the Coda.

If I use a simple double bar, MuseScore doesn't come back to the Segno. It goes directly to the Coda.

So... I need a repetition bar at that point.

The problem is... How I explain to MuseScore to perform the repetition in the way I want it makes it.

???

In reply to by jotape1960

After reading the handbook it seems to me you need to change it the following way:
At the first ending you have D.S. al Fine, but there is no "fine" anywhere. Remove D.S. al fine and substitute "to coda" (from the palette).
After the B section you need to remove the repeat sign and just enter a double barline, otherwise you tell the system in two different ways to repeat the A section and create confusion. The Dal segno al coda sign is fine.
The coda sign at the beginning of the coda is ok.
I think your main error was that repeat sign after the B part.

Having said that: If I printed this for people who actually sing the song I would copy / paste the A section after the B section, attach the coda and avoid having to explain to everybody how this dal segno thing works.

BTW Marc: Shouldn't it be "alla coda" as tails are feminine in Italian? (I have never seen it in printed music. Composers presumably assume the players are intelligent enough to play a section marked "coda" at the very end without special instructions).

In reply to by jotape1960

If you make exactly the change I suggested, it works, and that is the corect notation. That is, you need to do three things:

1) delete the DS al Fine from the measure with the volta
2) add a "To Coda" to the previous measure
3) in the measure with the DS al Coda (just before the coda), replace the repeat barline with a simple double bar

The DS al Coda is all you need to make the human musician or MuseScore jump back to the segno. Having both the DS *and* the repeat is incorrect. it is true that the repeatat the segno won't be taken on DS - this is standard / correct behavior and how human musicians will read it as well. You *can* add text to the DS to explicitly tell musicians to go ahead and take the repeat on the DS, and perhapsd someday MuseScore will be extended to support directions like this, but for now, it only does the standard behavior of not taking the repeats on the DS.

I performed all your suggestions.

Now, it works as I want.

BUT... I got something very strange. I uploaded the file and I want you test it: I got a very rare chord in the first measure of the "Coda" (the sound isn't what is written). What's wrong here? ???

BTW: This score it intended to be performed by the male quartet I'm "training"

About the female sex of the word "Coda" in Spanish, Italian and French, yes: It is female (it comes from the old Latin language and it means "tail", the typical dogs, cats, lions, tigers, monkeys, etc. tail). But... I don't remember to have seen some score with something related to this point. I'm not sure, but any musician understands the message, without to think about the sex of the word. Hahahahaha!!!

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In reply to by jotape1960

I found the solution!!!

The bad chord was the junction of the 2nd repetition measure plus the 1st measure of the Coda, because the text mark about "To Coda" was in the wrong place (it has to be on the measure before the 1st repetition measure).

I attach the final file.

Greetings and Too Much Thanks to all of you!!!!!!!

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