God Damn new software. It took a long time to get used to the peculiarities of the old version, and now

• Nov 22, 2015 - 22:27

you have put in lots of arbitrary changes. Enough to give up on trying to write stuff for musescore. HELP NEEDED: I used an F key signature, typed out the piece, and was going to enter lead-sheet chords when I discovered that the key signature had suddenly changed to a god-awful number of sharps, and all the notes in the piece were adjusted accordingly. I succeeded in changing the key signature back to one flat, but all the accidentals added to the notes in the piece by the software (presumably at the time the key signature got changed - how or why?) were unchanged. How to change things back so I don't have to re-enter everything???? There are two changes in the new software that I like: The larger notes in the entry (N) toolbar, and the added keyboard. The rest just adds inconveniences!


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I'm sorry to hear you don't like MuseScore having support for guitar tablature, linked parts, and an uncountable number of further improvements (plus fixed bugs) from MuseScore 1. But anyway, I'm guessing you accidentally hit the transposition shortcut, [F2], which would take you from F major (one flat) to F# major (six sharps). [Ctrl]+[Z] (undo) would be the best way to immediately respond if you didn't mean to do that, but at this point the "Respell Pitches" command (under the Notes menu) should help get things back the way you want them.

By the way, if you really can't get used to the new features, you have the option of keeping an old version of MuseScore alongside MuseScore 2—they can coexist peacefully on your computer.

In reply to by Isaac Weiss

I've done a couple things like that myself, and [Ctrl]+[Z] didn't help at all. As for the linked parts, they've already destroyed a lot of hard work. Is there a way to turn off the "linked" function so I can edit my parts the way I want them to look WITHOUT UPDATING THE SCORE?? It's been a nightmare. One addition of measures in a different meter didn't work, then once undone ([Ctrl]+[Z]) it left everything past that point maimed and one beat behind.... then it updated my entire score that way, corrupted the f*** out of it, and it's completely destroyed, won't post... nothing. I'll be recreating the score from .pdf's of parts, now. :p :p :p In other pieces, I want text displayed ONLY IN THE PARTS without messing up my scores... so if there's anyway to turn this function off, I'm dying to find out; otherwise I much prefer 1.3.

If they're going to keep making an uncountable number of "improvements," I'd like to raise my hand and ask that they put some code into the layout editing boxes so they don't always pop up right in the middle of the screen. Can't I get it to pop up on the side, so it's not COMPLETELY BLOCKING the page I want to check out applied changes to? (Now that I've totally griped about it, I'll find the answer in another post in about 20 minutes, I bet, haha).

In reply to by DavidConn8d

If you can attach the score that got corrupted here, we can probably help you fix it—and if you can recall exactly how it got corrupted and describe how to reproduce the problem, you would be doing MuseScore a great service, enabling the developers to fix what sounds like it could be a critical bug.

But anyway, as to the specific question of "unlinking" parts, go to File -> Export Parts… and you'll have the option to save the parts as completely separate MuseScore files, just like in the old version. (After that, you'll probably want to go to File -> Parts… and delete the linked parts from the main score.)

With linked parts, to get text to display in parts but not the score, click once on the text in the score and press [V].

As to the dialogs' position, I think it's universally standard behavior for dialogs to pop up in the middle of the screen. That said, it shouldn't be difficult to just drag it off to the side.

Also, just so you know, things worked out more or less okay with Jack Donovan: https://musescore.org/en/node/88486

In reply to by Isaac Weiss

Thank you, I appreciate the offer very much. I'm also glad to see that Jack found the key signature palette--it took me some time and some swearing of my own to figure out that the articulation options I'd been using in 1.3 are hiding on the "Advanced" articulations palette in 2.0.2. Regarding the popup dialog in the middle of the screen, it's just a pain in the tuckus to move that box out of the way 40 times in one hour. It completely blocks my score every single time, and if I had to use my Thanksgiving turkey wishbone wish for something other than money, it would be for that !@#!#!! dialog box to have a memory function attached to it so I could move it to the side and have it show up there every time it opens up--like a tool palette on gimp.

Anywho... Here are two copies of my scores: Drummerboy_Patapan_Bolero (aka "score A") and Drummerboy Patapan BOLERO_horn6tet_score ("score B"), as well as a .pdf of score B. In both scores, there is some kind of schmutz in Horn III @ mm. 49 that started as a small--almost half-rest looking--square but has grown a bit like a cancer during further measure edits. Luckily, it doesn't seem to print out, but it doesn't seem to be rests from another voice, and is annoying.

The major issues are with mm. 11-20. This is where Musescore 2.0.2 (windows 7 here) is indicating corruptions as follows:

Measure 11 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 11 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 11 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 11 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 11 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 11 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 12 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 12 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 12 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 12 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 12 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 12 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 13 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 13 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 13 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 13 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 13 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 13 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 14 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 14 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 14 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 14 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 14 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 14 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 15 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 15 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 15 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 15 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 15 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 15 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 16 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 16 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 16 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 16 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 16 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 16 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 17 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 17 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 17 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 17 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 17 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 17 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 18 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 18 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 18 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 18 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 18 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 18 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 19 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 19 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 19 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 19 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 19 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 19 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 20 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 20 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 20 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 24/24
Measure 20 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 20 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 20 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 24/24
Measure 21 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 21 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 21 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 21 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 21 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 21 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 16/16
Measure 22 Staff 1 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 22 Staff 2 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 22 Staff 3 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8
Measure 22 Staff 4 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 22 Staff 5 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 4/4
Measure 22 Staff 6 incomplete. Expected: 5/4; Found: 8/8

So... beats per measure not matching up with the indicated time signature. I had inserted some measures in between 5/4 sections. I input the 5/4 time signature at mm. 23, then the 4/4 at mm. 11. In score A, the time signature appeared after the first beat (and wreaked further havoc with attempts to fix it so I ended up with the mix shown in the .pdf--there's one quarter beat before the time signature for horns IV-VI, but three beats before the time signature in horns I-III). It just got crazy, and I couldn't make it right.

I tried cutting out the nasty section and re-entering--ending up with score B which displays 4 quarters per bar, but there is no 4/4 time signature and Musescore 2.0.2 is convinced that the measure properties (both nominal and actual) are 5/4. It won't allow a "nominal" edit, and if I edit the "actual" value to 4/4, it just chops off the last quarter beat of each bar (displaying like a 3/4 bar with no change of time signature). Also, during playback there is a pause at the end of each measure to mourn the absence of each invisible 5th beat.

This is what I could really use help puzzling out. Thanks very much for the part editing tips--I'll have to give them a whirl even though it sounded like I'm meant to delete all the parts I'm extracting (which is the entire score).. I'll reread it and do some searching/homework. Also, I had issues with writing cues in the parts that would update to the score, but would not miniaturize when I shrunk the cue notes in the parts. :p I'd also like to be able to break up multi-measure rests to indicate phrasing (display a 6 bar rest followed by a 5 bar rest instead of one big 11 bar rest)--but these are niggling points I'm sure there are already answers to or somebody has already brought it up and I can search it out.

Cheers.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

Thank you so much! I'll keep that corruptions discussion handy just in case. Any advice on that schmutz at mm. 49? Hopefully, these will upload now and I can get started on something with a few actual 24/24 bars, hahaha.

In reply to by DavidConn8d

Measure 49 is easy to see what went wrong - somehow you (accidentally?) tried to make the beam in measure 55 extend across the barline, by setting the beam properties in bar 56 to something other than Auto. Beaming across barlines works only if the measures are on the same system. Bad things happen if the bars were on different systems; but differently bad in 1.3 versus 2.0. Fix is to just select bar 56 and double click the "Auto" icon in the Beam Properties palette.

The bug with beaming across barliens with measures on different systems has been known a long time but is proving difficult to fix - see #16278: Beaming notes over barlines and line breaks

In reply to by DavidConn8d

Which dialog box are you finding you need to open 40 times in an hour? Probably whatever it is that you are trying to do by ipening dialogs over and over, there is a simpler way to do. So feel free to start a new trhead and describe what you are trying to do, and we can probably help you find a more efficient way to do it.

As for the corruptions, if this ever happens again, it would help if you could remember the exact sequence of operations that led to the problem so we can reproduce it and fix it. There are a few known bugs that cause corruptions, but none that I know of are related to linked parts. So either you have run into a new bug no one else has reported before, or the corruption may actually have been caused by something else.

Multimeasure rests are broken up automatically any time you have a double bar, rehearsal mark, tempo marking, system text, key or time signature change, segno, etc. That should cover the vast majority of cases where you'd want an mmrest broken. if fdor ome reaosn you want one broken at a place that does *not* correspond to knoe of those events - this would be rare - then simply right click the measure in the score, Measure Properties, and set the option to break mmrests. This is the same as in 1.3 as far as I can recall.

Whatever problem you are having with cues would also be worth starting a new trhead with sample score and a clear description of exactly what you are trying to do, what steps you are taking, what you expect to see happen, what happens instead, etc.

In reply to by DavidConn8d

As mentioned, if you can find a series of steps to reproduce the bug where something went wrong, please post. But overall, you should umltimately find linked parts a *huge* time saver. Sorry your first experience happened to trigger some sort of unusual bug (I don't recall any bug like that having been reported before). But the feature really does work extremely well most of the time. Between this and the zillions of other huge improvements, trust me - once you get the hang of it, you won't ever dream of going back to 1.3

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