Volta with multiple endings not working
I have followed the manual's instructions scrupulously (I think I have?) and I can't get the repeats I entered in the Inspector to show in the sheet music. I'd like to have...
- Volta 1: repeat 1,2, 3
- Volta 2: repeat 4
Any ideas?
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Comments
Did you also set the repeat/play count for the measure containing the end-repeat barline?
@chumbolito
![Repeats and Voltas.png]( "Repeats and Voltas.png")
I agree that voltas are quite confusing.
Check the attached example, which plays Volta 1.2.3. (first volta) three times and then Volta 4 (second volta) once.
For the "end repeat" measure: you have to set the measure property "Play count" to the full repeat count i.e. in this case 4 (not 3).
For both voltas: you have to set the volta property "Begin text" to whatever you want displayed i.e. how the performer sees the volta on the printed page.
And the most important point (easy to miss, at the foot of the inspector panel):
For both voltas: you have to set the volta property "Volta - Repeat list" to the actual repeats when this volta plays i.e. in this case 1, 2, 3 for first volta, and 4 for second volta.
In reply to @chumbolito I agree that… by DanielR
Did everything you suggested, still not fully working i'm afraid.
First there's the visual problem: the '1,2,3' & '4' doesn't not appear in the sheet music inside the volta?
Second, when I play the sheet, it will repeat 3 times and on the fourth repeat, it skips completely the 2nd volta (the 2/4 bar) and goes on to the Chorus on the next staff.
See attached animated gif...
In reply to Did everything you suggested… by chumbolito
It's impossible to help you any more unless you attach your actual score in MSCZ format. A picture (even animated) doesn't allow us to check how you set different properties in the Inspector.
In reply to It's impossible to help you… by DanielR
Sure! No problem (nobody had asked and it didn't occur to me so...)
In reply to Sure! No problem (nobody had… by chumbolito
"Did everything you suggested, still not fully working i'm afraid."
Well no, you didn't do everything. You missed these points:
- Volta 1 and Volta 2: Begin text was not set correctly
- Volta 2: Repeat list was 2 but should be 4
- End-repeat measure (1st volta measure): Play count was 2 but should be 4
Corrected file is attached...
In reply to "Did everything you… by DanielR
Oops! Sorry I missed that 'Begin text' thing.
However, I don't understand how you ended up with a Volta 2: Repeat list = 2 (it's 4 here, as on my gif), same with End-repeat measure (1st volta measure), Play count is 4 here, not 2 (again, as in my gif).
There's just one thing I don't understand...I can't seem to find the difference between your file which properly changes to volta 2 at the 4th repeat and mine which stills completely skips volta 2?
Did you do anything additionally to solve that because, for the rest, now it really looks the same to me? (I'm sure you'll point out something else I forgot :-S)
In reply to Oops! Sorry I missed that … by chumbolito
In the volta there are two places that you can change. First is what is printed on the score, the Begin text, the second is what is played, the Repeat list. Begin text does not affect playback. If you want volta 2 to play only on the 4th time through the Repeat list must be 4, you could change the text to anything you want like "Finale" if you wanted to rather than "4."
In reply to In the volta there are two… by mike320
As I said and as showed my gif...the 2nd volta's Repeat list is already set to 4...problem persists :(
In reply to As I said and as showed my… by chumbolito
That is not possible. You need to attach the score that still has the problem.
In reply to That is not possible. by mike320
Well, it looks like your comment fixed the problem! :-)
Closing and reopening Musescore seems to have fixed it but I can assure...it was happening before.
However, there is still an odd bug - but Musescore seems to still be a very buggy program as it's not my first - where it pauses for a long time on that 2/4 bar in volta 2 before moving on to the next.
Thanks to everyone for kindly helping me out with this! :-)
In reply to Well, it looks like your… by chumbolito
The pause is not a bug but rather by design. You have entered a section break at the end of the first 3 systems so you will get a pause of 3 seconds by default. If you want a system break, enter those like you did in all of the following systems.
Every program has bugs that is a fact. MuseScore is a program designed to work a certain way. It is not a bug that it doesn't work the way you want it to. If you do find any bugs, everyone involved in the program wants them fixed. If you need help, people here in the forum are happy to assist. BTW, everyone you've talk to that I'm aware of is a program user like you and none of us are actually employed by MuseScore.
In reply to The pause is not a bug but… by mike320
I don't understand the defensive tone? You could have ended your comment simply with the explanation of how a section break works in Musescore.
The rest was uncalled for.
In reply to @chumbolito I agree that… by DanielR
I downloaded the example and played it. The player just blows through the repeat (without repeating) and pays the 4th volta and on to the end.
Is there some global setting that tells the player to ignore (or play) repeats?
I'm running the latest MuseScore available to me ...
OS: macOS 10.14, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.5.0.28537, revision: 43c5553
In reply to I download the example and… by datihein
In version 3.5.0 there is a bug where repeats are never played in continuous view. To play repeats you must use Page View (not Single page view) and turn Play repeats off then back on every time you switch from continuous view. This has been fixed for version 3.5.1 which was released yesterday and available for download at https://musescore.org/en/download. I believe the Mac download is good to go, there is a minor unrelated problem with the Windows version.
In reply to In version 3.5.0 there is a… by mike320
Thanks! Toggling the repeat sign in the toolbar did the trick; yep, I have to do it every time I switch documents.
I look forward to the new version; maybe it will also fix some MIDI input issues I think were introduced in 3.5.0.
In reply to Thanks! Toggle the repeat… by datihein
I'm not aware of any such issues being reported. If you believe you are encountering one, best to start a new thread and describe the problem in more detail so we can investigate.
In reply to @chumbolito I agree that… by DanielR
This is by far the BEST explanation that I have found. Step 4: select the “repeat sign” icon on the top, left corner of the screen, ie, on the toolbar near the “add notes” icon. If you do not do this last step, the song will likely play right through the Volta’s to the last measure then stop. Ken from St Paul, USA
In reply to This is by far the BEST… by kprom0951
To be clear: that is not a step you normally need to do. That button is normally always on, unless you previously turned it off. If so, then indeed, turn it back on, just once, no need to continually turn it on and off. Just turn it back on and leave it on. Of course, if you do wish to turn it off at some point for some reason, that's fine, just remember to turn it back on when you're done with whatever you're doing that made you want to turn it off.
In reply to @chumbolito I agree that… by DanielR
This Daniel R post on Volta’s not working (Oct. 9, 2020) is by far the BEST explanation that I have found. Step 4: select the “repeat sign” icon on the top, left corner of the screen, ie, on the toolbar near the “add notes” icon. If you do not do this last step, the song will likely play right through the Volta’s to the last measure then stop. Ken from St Paul, USA.
In reply to @chumbolito I agree that… by DanielR
Daniel,
I can't seem to get to the volta properties. I need a video explaining the process because when I Right-Click the volta, I don't get the properties dialog box option. I've got to be doing something wrong! I'm visually impaired and that could be the reason I'm missing something. I want to have 1st ending Vrs "1, 2, 3," then the second ending "4."
Please advise! Thanks!
R Bryan Anthony
In reply to Daniel, I can't seem to get… by b2sing4u
These settings had been moved to the inspector a long time ago
In reply to These settings had been… by Jojo-Schmitz
See https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/voltas
In reply to Daniel, I can't seem to get… by b2sing4u
For Volta properties see:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/voltas#volta-properties
To edit the properties of a measure, especially the "Play Count" (used in conjunction with repeats and voltas), right-click an empty part of the measure and select Measure Properties.
See:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/measure-operations#play-count
and:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/voltas#Play_count