new musescore 3.6.2 moves score to middle of screen
How do I set musescore to open a score or new page in upper left corner, like it used to be before last update.
I couldn't find anything in the preferences so I probably missed something
thank you
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There is no preference setting for that as far as I know. But indeed this did change timetime in 3.6.x
@zivshosh
In Edit > Preferences > Canvas do you perhaps have a constraint set on Limit scroll area to page borders ? That would affect the allowed positioning of the score:
In reply to @zivshosh In Edit >… by DanielR
Limit scroll is unchecked
once I check it the note page get stuck in the middle
why middle?
upper left corner is preferrable since I use F10, F11 a lot
thank you
In reply to Limit scroll is unchecked… by zivshosh
"why middle?"
I think that's because you are talking about a 1-page score at a specific scaling?
If you have a multi-page score, enabling this setting Limit scroll area to page borders ensures that using PageUp and PageDown always displays a complete page on the left margin. Similarly you can't drag the page vertically off the screen area beyond its remaining visible border, so you will never reveal more of the non-score background.
When the Limit scroll area setting is disabled, you can end up with a partial page displayed at the left margin or a page half on-screen in a vertical direction.
In reply to "why middle?" I think that's… by DanielR
I can explain with an example
see attached picture
this is silly that everytime I open a score I have to drag it to the left so that F10/F11 won't go over the score
In reply to I can explain with an… by zivshosh
Indeed, me too, I was surprised by this change (since the 3.6) And I am always to moving the score to the left when opening it :(
The change is located here: https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/commit/61f4287b87423624204c05c99…
In reply to Indeed, me too, I was… by cadiz1
And as such with https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/7122
I can confirm the issue. Please put it into the issue tracker
Not new with 3.6.2, but with 3.6 Release Candidate, pre 3.6.0
In reply to And as such with https:/… by Jojo-Schmitz
can Style --> Page settings help to solve this problem or is it only for printing the score?
In reply to I can explain with an… by zivshosh
For me it's an improvement actually, but I can see it wouldn't be for everyone. Curious, would setting your default page view to "fit width" instead of 100% work for you? Seems with that on, things behave more as you might expect.
In reply to For me it's an improvement… by Marc Sabatella
fit width not only increased view (as expected) so that I don't see a whole page but it pushed it to the right
I'm sure there is a solution since it didn't happen before updating to 3.6.2
In reply to For me it's an improvement… by Marc Sabatella
? Only seeing half the score and a wide empty space left of it is supposed to be am improvement?
In reply to ? Only seeing half the score… by Jojo-Schmitz
Everyone has a different screen width and a different arrangement of side panels. For me, in my Presentation workspace, I have no side panels, and the score fits very nicely centered with a comfortable and pleasing margin on either side, all ready for my use in online teaching.
For normal use, I am in my Editing workspace and I have both side panels open, and the score opens to the left as I expect because it doesn't fit on screen.
I guess you only see a problem if you start with no right panel, and then open the panel later? I almost never do that, but yes, I can see this is a step backwards for that use case.
In reply to Everyone has a different… by Marc Sabatella
No, I have palettes and selection on hthe left and inspector on the right and want the score to fill the center
In reply to No, I have palettes and… by Jojo-Schmitz
but inspector as well as F10/F11 covers part of the score if it is in the middle
it does not do it when the the score is on the left side. I don't mean extreme left since I also have palettes screen open
I was the one who came up with the idea of centering the score, so I will absolutely fix this ASAP.
In my understanding, the core of the problem is that the score doesn't get "re-centered" when the size of the ScoreView changes (for example when you open the inspector).
Currently, when the ScoreView is resized, the top-left corner of the view stays in the top-left corner. A possible solution to the problem, is to make the center stay in the center. Would that be a good idea?
In reply to I was the one who came up… by cbjeukendrup
I also am understanding the issue to be about what happens when the width of the scoreview changes. For me, in the few cases where I do open a side panel while viewing a centered score, recentering seems like it would be fine.
In reply to I was the one who came up… by cbjeukendrup
no, right options like F10/F11 inspector etc cover part of the score when it is in the middle
and before the update to 3.6.2 the score started at top left corner when palettes screen was open
please make it an option at least so both left side and middle users will enjoy editing like always
In reply to no, right options like F10… by zivshosh
For me, it's very simple (I usually place the Palettes, the Inspector, even the Selection Filter all on the left - I have three tabs at hand)
Already, the left panel, constitutes in itself a kind of margin. More the margin of the score itself. In addition, from now on, there is a totally empty space, which "physically" distances the score from all the possibilities of editing, of various additions from the Inspector or the Palettes. Except therefore to manually moving the file at each file opening. Cumbersome!
Not only does it shake up the display as it has always been with the MuseScore program, but it also contradicts the evolution of the next version 4.
Create a new score with a recent nightly, you'll see that the score is directly adjacent to the left panel, and to your delight, there are "Palettes"/"Instruments"/"Inspector" tabs placed vertically on the side. Space saving, and easy access. Just perfect!
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In reply to I was the one who came up… by cbjeukendrup
You're probably now in the situation where you cannot please everyone!
Personally I would prefer to see the left of the score page always visible by default at the left margin, whether that is "edge of screen" or "right edge of Palettes panel".
In reply to You're probably now in the… by DanielR
Do you mean like it was in 3.5.2?
By the way, technically, the Palettes panel never "covers" the score view; it just moves the whole view to the right (and makes it smaller on the right side). So the point you see in the top-left corner after opening/closing Palettes is the same point as before the action.
The Inspector/Mixer/anything on the right strictly speaking also don't cover the score view, but makes it smaller, so that the effect is the same as covering it.
In reply to Do you mean like it was in 3… by cbjeukendrup
sorry but this is not true
inspector as well as F10/F11 cover part of the score when it is in the middle
see attached
the best would be to add a preference so that everyone will be happy. both those who like top-left corner or middle
or maybe include it in a template
A possible solution would be like this:
But this way, larger scores, that are not centered initially, would also move:
The "re-centering" should take that into account too, but what exactly should be "the rule" here?
Somebody told me once that I should not want to make software too smart. Maybe this is a case of that...
I could revert the whole centering thing and just let the score appear in the top left corner as in 3.5.2. Is that the best option? (Maybe not the most aesthetic way, but surely the most practical/ergonomic.)
In reply to A possible solution would be… by cbjeukendrup
For my part, I definitely vote for the most practical/ergonomic way.
In reply to I definitely vote for the… by cadiz1
the best would be to make it a preference or at least part of a template so that everyone will be happy
I vote for left-top corner since I use F10/F11 a lot and it covers part of the score when it is in the middle
In reply to A possible solution would be… by cbjeukendrup
how do I go back to 3.5.2?
In reply to how do I go back to 3.5.2? by zivshosh
You can download any older version here:
Mac: https://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musescore-nightlies/macos/3x/stable/
Windows: https://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musescore-nightlies/windows/3x/stable/
Linux: https://ftp.osuosl.org/pub/musescore-nightlies/linux/3x/stable/
In reply to how do I go back to 3.5.2? by zivshosh
And I promise it will be fixed in 3.6.3 :)
In reply to And I promise it will be… by cbjeukendrup
thank you cbjeukendrup
found 3.5.2 but will wait patiently to 3.6.3
meanwhile I'll have to drag every score to the top left corner
In reply to thank you cbjeukendrup found… by zivshosh
Well, I don't see any reason to not use 3.6.2 based on just this minor albeit slighly annoying regression.
And don't hold your breath on 3.6.3 to get released, it is*nt yet deciced whether this would happen at all, but if so, I won't expect to release in less than a month or two (unless there are serious regressions detected)
In reply to Well, I don't see any reason… by Jojo-Schmitz
thank you Jojo-Schmitz
I can wait
and 3.5.2 is ready in case it takes too long
In reply to how do I go back to 3.5.2? by zivshosh
Uninstall 3.6.2, install 3.5.2
PR created to fix it: https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/7616
(I can't find this issue in the real issue tracker, but now that there's a PR, that's maybe not necessary any more.)