text for hairpin
I know how to use begin text to modify a hairpin such that it reads cresc. where the is the graphic symbol of the hairpin. I can then use spaces after cresc. text to position the cresc. in one measure and the hairpin visually appears in the next measure but the crescendo covers two measures. I would like to do the same with paired hairpins, one in each measure but actually a single crescendo. I would expect the proper reference for end text that defines the hairpin graphically would work but I cannot find the referenced text to do that. Can this be done.?
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To position a crescendo hairpin over a range of notes, see:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/lines#range-of-notes
Your mention of using "spaces after cresc. text to position the cresc." and that "the hairpin visually appears in the next measure" makes little sense to those of us who cannot see the actual score, as you can.
So please attach it with a detailed explanation of what task you wish to accomplish, how you try to accomplish it, and what happens instead.
Indeed, what you are describing doesn't really make sense to me either, as I can't imagine a reason to want to add spaces to trick a hairpin into appearing in a different measure than the text. If you need to do this, it should be much simpler and more effective to just add them separately. Or better yet, use one or the other only - it's not really standard to use both at once and might confuse readers, depending on the context.
But if you attach your score and describe the special effect you are trying to create in more detail, we can understand and assist better.
In reply to Indeed, what you are… by Marc Sabatella
I am including a few measures from the printed score I am using to create the digital version. The image does not show the subsequent measure as it was on another page, but the second hairpin in the image extends halfway into the following measure and the subsequent note is an "sf." So it is my interpretation that the initial crescendo/hairpin raises up and the second hairpin continues the crescendo (even though split) and following the hairpin, the level returns to f due to the sf marking. The first crescendo/ hairpin is included in my score with beginning text on a hairpin spanning the two measures. I assume with no marking between the two hairpins, that the crescendo should be continuous and not revert to some lower dynamic in between. So obviously a single hairpin could have been used but I am trying to reproduce what is written and then of course the playback can be different than what is printed with hidden elements etc. which would be necessary since the hairpins are bracketed by the same dynamic (f) so velocity change would be needed or hidden dynamics. Not really worth much of a discussion; I was just curious if a hairpin image could be inserted using text since this occurs for other line types (pedal markings) where there is text indicated by in the text field.
In reply to I am including a few… by msokol
A hairpin is not a single symbol of text, but a line with a length range; so no you can't insert it as text.
Just enter the cresc line and the two hairpins and indeed resort to setting their velocity change or place hidden dynamics inbetween for the desired playback effect.
In reply to I am including a few… by msokol
It's not totally clear, but my guess this is indeed just a very oddly notated single crescendo. Unless you have some special reason to need to reproduce that odd notation, then I'd recommend overriding that particular editor's questionable choice and take this as an opportunity to correct this with a more clear and standard notation. But, if you do need to reproduce the original editor's choice for whatever reason, then I'd simply add three separate markings: the cresc line followed by two ordinary hairpins. No hidden elements should be needed, just use the Inspector to set the velocity changes as you see fit. One advantage of this notation when it comes to MuseScore playback in fact is that it allows you to customize the degree of dynamic change from measure to measure with more control than if it were single hairpin.
In reply to It's not totally clear, but… by Marc Sabatella
I found out you can add text to a Hairpin to make it more convenient to read