Is there a music sign that tells the violinist to play it like a guitar?
Harass me all you want, beat me up if you will. But in this time of era, dose a sign like this even exist?
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You mean pizz., pizzicato? Or do you mean strumming?
In reply to You mean pizz., pizzicato? by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh, so the term "strumming" can be used on Violins?
In reply to Oh, so the term "strumming"… by Haoto 2
There is no standard notation for this, so pick whatever gets the meaning accros to your musicians
In reply to Oh, so the term "strumming"… by Haoto 2
You don't truly strum a violin. The strings are strung too tight and ring very little compared to a guitar. Furthermore, they follow the arc shaped bridge which makes strumming difficult. So they would actually pluck individual strings.
In reply to You don't truly strum a… by mike320
See https://youtu.be/jjWskRTnJkM?t=136
In reply to You don't truly strum a… by mike320
They are clearly strumming violins here:
https://youtu.be/eyP6RI2twVo?t=4m
This piece for viola is said to be "alla chitarra" in the description:
https://youtu.be/iOoFTC0SxWk
I believe that is a decision made by the concert master or conductor. I read online that someone went to a concert that included "Huapongo" by Moncayo and the violinists played them like guitars, but there is no indication in the score they should do this, just pizz. Even if you did write the instructions in the score, the final decision would be that of the concert master or conductor. The concert master makes all final decisions on how the strings play. If you write a double stop or triple stop, the concert master may decide to have it played divisi since he has the resources (instruments) to do that.
In reply to I believe that is a decision… by mike320
I've seen a couple of live performances (and probably a few more online) in which the violins are strummed, which is a little different from pizz, but I have never seen how it was notated. My guess is that it's relatively obscure, and as such, is notated as per the whim of the composer/orchestrator. It probably wouldn't be wrong to just use staff text to indicate this.
There isn't a common musical term for that, like pizz. or pizzicato, but if you want your work to be played like that just say so in the score, like "play like guitar". Unusual playing instructions are not uncommon in modern musical work.
In reply to There isn't a common musical… by Howard-C
I wasn't expecting it to be common for classical compositions, I should've mentioned that lol.
Everyone knows what the late Jimi Hendrix did with his guitars at the end of his sets, but there is no musical term for it (just citing another rarely-used gesture with no standard marking).
In reply to Everyone knows what the late… by [DELETED] 1831606
Everyone knows what the late Jimi Hendrix did with his guitars at the end of his sets,
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...but there is no musical term for it (just citing another rarely-used gesture with no standard marking).
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In reply to Everyone knows what the late… by Jm6stringer
What about con fuoco?
In reply to What about con fuoco? by [DELETED] 1831606
Doesn't "con fuoco" mean "vigorous like fire"?
In reply to Doesn't "con fuoco" mean … by Howard-C
con fuoco - with fire like Jimmy Hendrix.
In reply to con fuoco - with fire like… by mike320
Stromenti ardante?
"quasi guitara" as used by Rimsky-Korsakov
(Capriccio Espagnol)
I have also seen "quasi chitarra" (Villa Lobos or deFalla)
In reply to "quasi guitara" as used by… by penne vodka
Plus, you'll need to write notes that can be fingered on the instrument. Not just any note in the chord.
In reply to Plus, you'll need to write… by bobjp
A good general rule is to use [EDIT] MANDOLIN chord voicing for chording on violin. I used to do a bit of a parlour trick by playing John Fogarty tunes on the violin.
Pro tip: don’t do this with your friend’s expensive concert instrument. 🙄
In reply to A good general rule is to… by toffle
Mandolin is tuned like a violin.
In reply to Mandolin is tuned like a… by bobjp
Ack! That is what I meant to say! (How is that possible... thinking one word and writing another?)
Yes, of course, the tuning is mandolin, NOT uke! (I cleaned my two mandolins, plus my uke today. You think I’d know the difference by now)
In reply to Ack! That is what I meant to… by toffle
When I do it I call it "senior moment" - : (
In reply to Ack! That is what I meant to… by toffle
And it doesn't get any better the older you get. I miss my brain.
Since it is an international one, type "Play like a guitar" in English.
If you write with terminology that no one will understand, the only thing that will help is confusion.
In the movie “Master and Commander: The Far Side of the World“ the captain and the doctor play part of a piece by Boccherini, where the violin is strummed. Maybe IMSLP has the original and it might have directions on it? A strummed violin sounds a bit like a ukulele, so maybe “strum like a ukulele“ would be a reasonable direction.
In reply to In the movie “Master and… by underquark
Yes; It can also be clearer this way.
im pretty sure there is
i saw "quasi pizz chitarra" in this piece called huapango and im guessing it means pizz the violin in a guitar hold
In reply to im pretty sure there is i… by daianthony042
I mentioned the Master and Commander movie earlier in this thread. In "Musica notturna delle strade di Madrid", Luigi Boccherini gives the instruction "imitando la chitarra" for the violins.
It's listed as Opus 30 No.6 and catalogued as G324. He also uses "imitando il tamburo", "imitando un campanella", "imitando il fagotto" at other places for drum, little bell and basoon.
Link to IMSLPL: https://vmirror.imslp.org/files/imglnks/usimg/e/e0/IMSLP30300-PMLP68291…