Unexpected cornamuse embellishment pitches
Version 2.3.2 and current 3.0 dev. /Windows 7/10
1) New score for cornamuse
2) Enter a few notes, or load this test file: cornamuse.mscz
3) Select the first note G, and in the Embellishments palette, double-click on the A.
Expected: an A
Current result: a G
And so on, wrong/unexpected grace notes are entered with other notes.
- First reported here https://musescore.org/fr/node/277339
Comments
I see a change a month before the 2.0.3 release, on March 17, 2016.
Here: https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2458
As I recall, there has been some confusion on this topic in previous discussions because bagpipes are (sometimes?) treated as transposing instruments, but in an unusual way. I'm extremely fuzzy on this, but the bottom line, I think, is that we need to be careful and check with bagpipe notation experts on this.
Cornamuse (like used in that sample score) is not a bagpipe. Bagpipe transposes a major second, cornamuse does not, and that seems where the difference comes from.
Ah, indeed, it's very confusing.
When switching "Cornemuse" (Wiki in French) https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornemuse, in English Wiki, you get "Bagpipes"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpipes
A test file: Cornamuse, Bagpipe.mscz
Nevertheless, there is an issue with "Cornamuse" (Cornemuse in French), as described above, and it appears on March 17.
Hence a title change.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornamuse or https://fr.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornamuse is an entirely different instrument and bagpipe embellishments most probably don't have any meaning for it.
However maybe these should take transpositioning into account.
As already said, with the 2.0.2, and a score for Cornamuse, you get the expected result.
Not with the 2.0.3 (since March 17, 2016).
Because before it was wrongly transposed for bagpipe, I believe
In reply to Because before it was… by Jojo-Schmitz
After checking, indeed.
So, if I understand well, the fix for Bagpipe has broken the Cornamuse. Not cool...
In reply to After checking, indeed… by cadiz1
Ok, so the confusion:
![corne1.jpg]( "corne1.jpg")
vs.
![corne.jpg]( "corne.jpg")
In English program, there is in Woodwinds: 1) Cornamuse and 2) last one, of Woodwinds (all instruments): Bagpipe
But in French program, there is no difference in translation between the first one (Cornemuse) and the second one (Cornemuse, the celtic instrument)
So the real bug is in the French translation.
No :)
Translation adds to the confusion, but the essential problem is the same. Before March 16th, the Cornamuse/ Cornemuse (Renaissance instrument, non-transposing) was ok, and the Bagpipe /Cornemuse (celtic instrument, transposing) was wrong. And now, it's the opposite!
And bagpipe embellishments don't make any sense when applied to a cornamuse, so there is no bug, none in the bagpipe embellishments at least.
It can be understood in this way indeed.
In reply to It can be understood in this… by cadiz1
So, closed issue.
Fixed the translation?
In reply to Fixed the translation? by Jojo-Schmitz
Came up agin in a comments in https://musescore.org/fr/node/154376
Translation fixed now.