Key change at repeat bar symbol

• Mar 15, 2019 - 00:15

I have a piece of music with a key change in the first bar of a repeated section,so the key change symbol is right by the repeat barline. In Musescore 2 the layout is 'repeat bar > new key symbol'. In Musescore 3 this is reversed to become 'new key symbol > repeat bar line', which puts the key change symbol at the end of the bar prior to the first bar of the repeated section. I'm not sure which is technically correct but certainly the Musescore 2 layout seems more intuitive. Is there a workaround for this in MS3?


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For the record, the official recommendation from the recognized experts is for key change before, which is why we changed it. The key doesn't change at every repeat, it changes before the repeat. Implying otherwise is misleading and potentially confusing, so to me it's a very sensible recommendation.

In reply to by Gregorio Maria Paone

It's not clear what you'r picture is supposed to be showing, or what the key was before. But unless it is meant to change from "neither C major nor A minor" in the measures before the end of the first repeated section to "either C major or A minor" at the beginning of the same section, it appears to show an improper notation. But in those two very special cases, indeed, your notation would be correct, so in those very special cases, you need to employ the workaround to get that instead of the standard notation.

In reply to by Gregorio Maria Paone

I understand you want to go to C on the right side, but the way your examples shows, it looks like it is supposed to go to C when you take the first repeat - which is wrong. So again, MuseScore 3 is doing this correctly, please don't do your readers - or the people listening to them play - a disservice by making them think they need to go to C major when they take that first repeat! When they go back to the repeat that isn't shown to the left, they should still be in G, but your example makes it look incorrectly like they should be going to C. Thus, they will play F naturals when they should play F#'s the second time through, if they take this notation literally.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Yes, this is why I would like to put the key change on the right side and not on the left. I just don't know how to tell MuseScore 3 to do so, and I use MuseScore 2 which automatically does so. That's it, I don't make my readers confused, I just posted here what MuseScore 3 did automatically. I am actually satisfied with both MuseScore 2 and 3 and I keep them both installed to fix easily matters like this, without struggling with manual placement of elements.

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