String editing
Hello, I wanted to report on a detail that is not too important, I mention it because it has an easy solution for other versions, although it has already been treated previously.
The problem comes when we want, for example on a guitar, to edit their strings, for example the 6th on D.
We modify it in your window and we see that they are automatically changed in the amateur and professional section.
We press apply and accept, but they have not changed.
Therefore you have to go back to the menu and change it into amateur and professional.
So if it changes, but we do the same job twice.
I accompany with an image in which you can see that they change the strings when editing, when they close they remain the same as they were, a greeting.
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The amateur and professional ranges have nothing to do with the string data. They are not linked.
If you want to edit the ranges, you can click the little "pen" icon next to each field.
In reply to The amateur and professional… by [DELETED] 5
Maybe they should be linked. String data does give exact ranges, from lowest string to highest string plus number of frets.
In reply to The amateur and professional… by [DELETED] 5
If you look at the pro and am ranges as you edit the string data, when you press the OK button on the staff properties window the last time, the ranges match the string changes, how ever if you reopen the staff properties they are back to where they were before you changed the string data.
I would agree that everyone's range just changed to match the string tuning.
It's just a small problem that is resolved as you comment, I also think that they should be linked, it makes more sense.
The logical thing is that if I change and edit a string, for example the 6th and that is very usual, I do it for several reasons.
By the tessitura, so that it does not appear in red, and by the tabulation, so that it represents me well the notes.
If I edit that string and see the non-permanent visual change, I miss it, I'm telling the program that I changed that string and I should react and do it in one step.
I already commented that it is not an important thing and that it is solved by doing the two steps, but I can not find the logic.
Thanks for the answers, Lasconic, Mike and Jojo.
In reply to It's just a small problem… by goranire
"The logical thing is that if I change and edit a string, for example the 6th and that is very usual, I do it for several reasons. By the tessitura, so that it does not appear in red"
For that, you seem to forget that it is not necessary, as you do, to modify the usable pitch range values in Staff properties.
Just go to: Edit -> Preferences -> Note input -> Untick: "Color notes outside usable pitch range" -> OK
In reply to "The logical thing is that… by cadiz1
Hello Cadiz1
That does not interest me, it comes very well to warn of an instrument out of range and is a great tool in my opinion.
As I do, I have no problem, but it would be simpler to have a real connection, if I edit a string, I change the useful tessellation in a real way, because I have changed a string and that action must be carried out, specifically if it is the 6th because I increase the range, it seems that you want to do it as it is reflected in the image but the changes are not real.
I must do it by hand and again.
It does not make sense that if I change the 6th to D, the score has as reference E which is by default.
In fact if I do not change the tessitura it is reflected in the tabulation in errors of position of notes in the strings.
I commented to see what you think about it.
It is not hard for me to make the necessary changes, but I do not see it as logical.
In reply to Hello Cadiz1… by goranire
"That does not interest me, it comes very well to warn of an instrument out of range and is a great tool in my opinion."
Well, it's nevertheless the simplest way used by guitarists with this programm.
"In fact if I do not change the tessitura it is reflected in the tabulation in errors of position of notes in the strings."
I don't understand well what you mean by errors of position of notes that would be related with this tessitura. Could you attach a score please which demonstrate this?
In reply to "That does not interest me,… by cadiz1
In another moment I attached an image explaining the case, right now I can not for time, a greeting.
In reply to In another moment I attached… by goranire
Well, in fact, it seems you made a confusion. After watching your first attached image, you have ticked the 6th D string as open.
![ticked.jpg]( "ticked.jpg")
It'a a feature for unfretted strings. See in handbook:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/tablature#mark-string-open
So, untick the "open" 6th string, like this
![D2.jpg]( "D2.jpg")
, and all will goes well again and as expected. It will be unuseful to change the pitch ranges in staff properties.
In reply to Well, in fact, you made a… by cadiz1
What you are saying now I have noticed, you do not have to check the box, ok, thank you.
Now, I've done a test and I upload the file to see it working, these are the conclusions.
If I edit the string (6th in D) in the tablature works perfectly, having unchecked the box.
If I edit the string (6th in D) in the staff the changes are not maintained, they must be done in tuning.
I usually do the scores in the staff, I copy them later in the tabulation and I see if there are execution problems, so I asked about the linked changes, knowing the subject is not important either, but more logical.
It may also be that I do not know something or I have not noticed.
In reply to What you are saying now I… by goranire
Ok, so you understand now that you no longer have to check this column of "open" strings about the guitars and others.
All is well then.
I have not understand all yet in your last message. I thind you borrowed a bad track early using a feature that is not intended for guitar and others.
And now you must forget this point of amateur and professional ranges. As this has said, it has nothing to do with the string data. They are not linked, and I don’t see the usefulness that it should be otherwise.
The usable pitch range for a guitar means its "common", "standard" pitch range, ie E2 -> B5. It is indicative. That's it, and it will stay a long time :)
So, it does not matter then that you choose to drop down the sixth string to D or C, and that it is not updated in Staff properties (in the usual pitch range), as you seem to wish.
For example, if you change another string, say the fifth, an A for a G (quite common too), of course it will not be able to appear, since it will be located inside the pitch range.
The important point is the tuning of the six strings which appears in the String Data. This is the essentiel information that you really need, and not only the two extremes pitches (very incomplete and accessory information)
Finally, as also said, to avoid the red dots go to Preferences / Note input / Untick "color notes inside etc."
On the other hand, there is still a problem with the red dots, which is not resolved, and I find it regrettable that it is not yet resolved, ie #246176: Hide Fret conflicts in TAB staff when show unprintable is off
Because this leads really to confusion and misunderstanding when guitarists discover this.
There was a workaround with the 2.0.3 version and previous. Since the 2.1, it may no more works alas.