Time signature invisible spacing
When I make a time signature invisible after the most recent updates, it seems to lose all its horizontal spacing. Is this new or am I being thick? The following notes are then much closer than in any normal system, plus it becomes really hard to select the time signature. Is it just me? (see attachment)
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Can you attach here the score you are having problems with?
In reply to Can you attach here the… by Shoichi
Sure, I have attached a demonstration.
Seems you made it invisible, I'm that case it doesn't take space, and this is by design
In reply to Seems you made it invisible,… by Jojo-Schmitz
That makes sense, but why doesn't it have the same spacing as the system below? i.e. without a time signature to begin with?
In reply to That makes sense, but why… by MrReedSWCHS
I'd say it's a bug. MuseScore is probably getting confused about which style setting to apply - the one for space between clef and time signature, or clef and note, or time signature and note, and ends up doing nothing.
Meanwhile, though, if your goal is to have a score with no time signatures, don't make it invisible - supress it entirely in Staff Properties.
In reply to I'd say it's a bug. … by Marc Sabatella
Ah, thank you, Marc. Trouble is, I'm making worksheets and sometimes I need time signatures, sometimes not.
In reply to Ah, thank you, Marc. Trouble… by MrReedSWCHS
Thanks for #293775: Time and key signature spacing incorrect when invisible ;-)
In version 2, when you made a time signature invisible it left the space for it. This space was eliminated in version 3. I have a few scores I did this to so I'd have room for things like rehearsal marks, now the useless invisible time signature is there until I decide I want to take the time to reset all of the system breaks. Some of my scores are in excess of 700 measures :(
In reply to In version 2, when you made… by mike320
Make is visible and white?
But yes, those kind of workarounds are going to bite back on a version cuanget
In reply to Make is visible and white? by Jojo-Schmitz
Unfortunately the Braille conversion program doesn't recognize a white item as invisible and will use it (which could be confusing) so the time signature either has to be deleted or invisible.
In reply to Unfortunately the Braille… by mike320
FWIW, I'd say it's better to sue a segment leading space adjustment for this anyhow. Probably that's what you are doing now?
In reply to FWIW, I'd say it's better to… by Marc Sabatella
sue -> use?
In reply to sue -> use? by Jojo-Schmitz
We're such a litigious society 😜
Seems to be introduced with MS 3.1 (?). At least with MS 3.0.5 it doesn't change the spacing (in the same way for example with a key signature). Seems making this element invisible lost the settings of auto-placement. Workaround: changing the offset of 'segment' inside the inspector for the visible elements of the same measure?
In reply to Seems to be introduced with… by kuwitt
Or select the Clef, via Inspector->x offset to 2,50?
In reply to Seems to be introduced with… by kuwitt
changing the offset of 'segment' that's what I ended up doing to make the space. The time signature was a lazy way that worked at the time.