Musescore is a scam

• Mar 14, 2020 - 05:50

by the title you can tell exactly because only free users like us understand

omg they say the compositions and all the sheet musics are legit free and they promised for it, look what's happening next... when you tries to download a music as midi, it keeps showing you and forces you to use 30-day trial.

What a scam... please remove this site


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To aid understanding...

The musescore.org site is for questions about the MuseScore editor software itself - the free, open source desktop software, along with its support and documentation.

The musescore.com site is for posting, sharing, and discussing MS notated scores; it is also for discussing the mobile apps.
Please check the url address in your browser to verify where you are posting.

Complaining at .org (here) about a latent conflagration at .com is like spotting a possible fire and then speed dialing ....the pizza delivery guy.
Simply put: it ain't gonna help.

Also, see:
https://musescore.org/en/node/302295
which explains more about "downloads".

In reply to by musicgenius118

@musicgenius118
If you explain "this stuff" in a bit more detail, someone may be able to help you. Remember that these forums on musescore.org offer support for the MuseScore free desktop notation software.

And if you are concerned about publishing scores on the MuseScore website or a MuseScore subscription plan, that's covered on musescore.com where you can try the forum there:
https://musescore.com/groups/improving-musescore-com

I would say it's fair, All this music at your finger tips sounds too good to be true if it's free. I would say a pro subscription is way worth the cost.

I'll second the scam claim, don't hand over your credit card details!
I recently trialled this service for 30 days free just to see what it could be used for - I only used it once the first time I logged in. When I needed to cancel my trial a few weeks later I found that my login credentials would not work on the site (like come-on, my details were saved into my browser ffs). After this I contacted their support team and they said they couldn't find my details, but while the "customer support" case was pending for the next days, my credit card was charged for a yearly fee of 65AUD. I asked musescore to refund me, clearly I was neither able to use or cancel the service without functional login details, and the rep had the cheek to say I was not entitled to my money back! This business absolutely stinks of a scam.

In reply to by newsome

Well possible. That program was/is a scam, supporting theft, simply criminal.
Still nothing to do with musescore.org ot ther MuseScore program, nor with users not reading the fine print and entering their credit card number somewhere, forgetting the logon credentials. and then complaining, and on the wrong site to the wrong people.

I know this might not help, but I feel compelled to try and clear things up.

There are two different websites: musescore.org, where you are now, and musescore.com, that jerrychinyong and amberads are complaining about. This site - musescore.org - deals only with the program that you download and run on your computer that creates sheet music. The site that you two are referring to - musescore.com - hosts sheet music created with the computer program. While they're somewhat connected, they're not the same.

MuseScore the computer program is most certainly not a scam, as it's great for creating sheet music, and I've been using it for over ten years. There is no cost for the program, the full version is and always has been free. The website musescore.com is for hosting sheet music, and is also not a scam. Granted, the way they deal with those sheets has changed, but that doesn't make it a scam. In the beginning every piece of music there was free to download in several formats, but music publishers and copyright holders threw a hissy fit about infringement, so now most of it is locked behind a yearly subscription. If you want to download the sheets, you have to pay the fee and be a pro member. I see that you're upset jerrychinyong, but it had to change. It was either put it behind a subscription or take it all offline. At least this way it's not all completely gone, and you still have access if you're willing to pay the subscription.

As for the problem you had amberads, I can't speak to that, but I can say that you're not complaining in the right place. The forum users and admins over here at musescore.org can't do anything about your issue.

In reply to by newsome

Thank you for clarifying, although it's a shame you had to. I love MScore and am amazed at the functionality for a freeware program. I went to the Donate page and was almost disappointed that you don't (can't) accept direct monetary donations. I've done so much with this program, I feel like I owe you at least something. Keep up the great work. This is phenomenal.

Why do we have crap like this in the bug report forum? This is for serious discussions about problems with Musescore, not dumb rants about copyright issues on Musescore.com. Musescore is about as non-scammy as you can get; you pay nothing to download something that is made from time donated by people who want to improve the product the product because they want more out of it.

In reply to by ♪𝔔𝔲𝔞𝔳𝔢𝔯 ℭ𝔯𝔞𝔣𝔱𝔢𝔯♪

Why? Because shipwrecked sailors don't choose the beach they rack up on. People come here with complaints about the other site because the difference between the two is "known only to the initiated", i.e., subtle and not at all obvious, and there seems no interest in doing anything about it. And the copyright/download policies and what-is-public-and-what-is-not issues of the .com site are a total mess. "PD" means "I'm arranging a PD song", for one. People come here irate because they are confused by both sites. Happens every single day.

@jerrychinyong:

I only have a free account and have found many, many scores available for free download – I guess that they are all public domain scores. I only ever download the MuseScore file format but you can export as MIDI from the free desktop software.

I'd like to add my comments to this as well, the site is shady, and i have only one reason, i just signed up for the 30 day free trial, and put my card info in. If i were to cancel my sub right now i lose my next 29 days of free trial. They do this so that if i forget to cancel the day before, they will charge me for a year of Musescore, thats a pretty scumy move.

In reply to by Michael Gibson 2

You mean you read through this thread, realized you're on the wrong site here (.org vs .com) but still chose to respond here?
If you'd indeed loose your next 29 days when cancelling, then that would be a new policy as last year you could cancel the very next day, but still use the full trial period.

Musecore is NOT A SCAM and any one who thinks it is has been scammed by a completely different enterprise - NOT BY MUSECORE.ORG. Musescore is an excellent scoring program and its free!!

So why did the MuseScore organization sell the name and logo rights to MuseScore.com?

I've been a supporter of the MuseScore organization and software for many years. MuseScore.com just double-charged me and won't issue a refund for the extra. I call that a scam! To be honest, I trusted the company because I've trusted the open source project all these years. They use the same logos (I'm assuming that's with permission and/or payment). Sure, I'm a fool for not googling MuseScore.COM reviews (red flags all over the place), but I don't see how the organization can deny all connection to a company with sketchy practices, when it gave permission for the company to use its intellectual property. I think the MuseScore.org website should have much clearer messaging that the two are different entities. You can get annoyed at confused and frustrated users posting in your forum, but it will continue as long as the two entities are undifferentiated to the casual user.

In reply to by Shoichi

Thank you, Soichi. I thought I remembered a notice about money changing hands, and hoping it was for the best. It felt a little icky because I'd donated a lot over the previous years to support the project, but I couldn't blame the creators and runners for wanting security. Most importantly, it explains why there is a stain of unscrupulous business practices on this community. Very disappointing.

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