Invisible stave

• Oct 4, 2015 - 09:47

Is there a way to make a stave invisible, but audible?


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In reply to by Fred Guldentops

To be clear: "right click" means click with the *right* (as opposed to left) mouse button. That terminology is obvious enough for two-button mice. For a one-button mouse, the equivalent gesture is usually Ctrl+click. For touchpads it might be Ctrl+click, Ctrl+tap, or two finger tap. Consult the documentation for your device if you aren't sure.

Anyhow, whatever the gesture is for your device, you need to that on the staff to display the context menu that contains "Staff Properties" and other actions.

But as noted, to make a staff invisible - if that is your goal - you can do that by pressing "I" (shortcut for Edit / Instruments) and hiding the staff in the resulting dialog.

It's also possible you are trying to do something else, like automatically staves that are empty for some particular system, or delete a staff completely, etc. We can give you more specific help if you explain in more detail what you are trying to do (and attaching the score you are working on is usually helpful too).

In reply to by Justin Peoplesworth

It's not totally clear what you mean when you say you highlighted some measures an unclicked the visible box.
There would not normally any "Visible" box available after selecting measures. The only cases I can think of here is if those measure happened to be completely empty so the selection contained nothing but rests, or else if the piece was in 4/4 time and every measure in the selection contained a whole note. In either of these cases, the Inspector would indeed show a Visible checkbox, to control the visibility of those rests or notes. And unchecking it would cause those rests or notes to become invisible. They would show up grey on screen so you can still edit them, but invisible when printing. The measures themselves remain, just the contents are invisible.

However, I am thinking it is pretty unlikely that this is actually what you intend. My guess is that you either want to delete those measures completely, or else you want to hide the entire measures (probably because they are empty). To delete measures, select them and press Ctrl+Delete (or Edit / Measure / Delete Selected Measures). To automatically hide all empty measures where possible, use Style / General / Hide empty staves. This will still leave empty measures on staves that also contain non-empty measures, as per usual engraving convention, but if you really want "holes" in the score where the empty measures appear, you can right click them individually, go to Measure Properties, and uncheck "Visible" there for the particular staff on which you wish the hole to appear.

If that doesn't solve your problem, please attach your score and describe in more detail what you are actually trying to accomplish.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Hi, Marc!

Yes, the measures are empty; I just didn't want them appearing when printed. They're at the end of certain lines that stop at the right side of the page, so each line is a new staff (ie. scales only taking up 3 measures per line, or chord progressions taking up 4 measures, instead of continuing on.)

Thank you! :)

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In reply to by Justin Peoplesworth

I don't see any empty measures in your example, but if I understand you correctly, you are wishing certain lines of music to not be stretched to the right margin. Assuming you don't want to simply increase the right margin (maybe you want some lines to still stretch?), then that's still something different yet. Instead of invisible measures, you actually just want a horizontal frame (see Frames palette). That's how you prevent a line from stretching the full width of the page.

I have got the same question, but I think my situation is quite different. Since Alpha 3.5 brings the great new feature of audible chord symbols, I am going to put Chord Symbols in a separate System. I do want to see the chord symbols and the measure lines as well, but wish the five note lines and rests to be unvisible. The rests can be selected an changed to invisible. But up to now I haven't found a means to do the same to the note lines. Is this possible, too?

In reply to by SlyDr

May I ask why you are considering going to all that trouble, though? I can’t think of anything that really buys you. After all you can already mute the channel in the Mixer if you want, change it’s sound, etc. And if there is something I am missing here, and it really does provide some benefit, maybe better to consider how we could address that deficiency so people don’t resort to awkward workarounds like adding invisible staves just for chord symbols.

In reply to by Marc Sabatella

Marc, sure you may ask. Since the chord playback feature is available I find it handy to have a "harmony track" that does not take too much space. So I can use it to put it over the melody and print it. I can also use it to experiment with solo parts or bass lines. I could attach the chords to the melody line, sure. But after changuing the melody, e.g. deleting part of the melody, the chords disappear, too.
Maybe the way I do it isn't the smartest way but it works for me and up to now I do not know a better one.

In reply to by SlyDr

Thanks for the explanation, although it's still not really clear to me what you mean. If you're just experimenting, it would seem you don't need to go to all the trouble of hiding staff lines. Creating an extra staff with chords if it helps, but when you're done experimenting, just delete that staff. Perosnally, I'd add the chords where I wanted it and delete them when I didn't need them anymore. Also, for the record, chords won't disappear when you edit the melody if you uncheck them in the selection filter. So probably there are indeed better ways. But if it works, go for it!

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