Different behavior for Note Entry mode

• Feb 20, 2016 - 15:29
S5 - Suggestion
by design

I can't go back and make a simple change to a note value. For example, I wanted to make a group of a dotted eighth note and a sixteenth note and just make it two eighth notes. Each change I make to one note, it adds a bunch of screwed up rests, eliminates other notes, etc. to "correct" the bar. Take the dot off the eighth note, it screws everything up. Change the sixteenth note, it screws everything up. It's freaking horrible. I can't change them both at the same freaking time! I only wasted time trying to figure this out because I couldn't believe that someone would program something like this, and not allow you to turn this off, and make how to do so obvious and intuitive! But here I am, a LOT of time wasted. How can you not have a way to go back and change something?

GIT commit: f51dc11


Please advise on how you feel/think the note entry mode should behave according to you.

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No need to get angry. I think you are simply confused as to how this is working. See the responses to your forum post. Changing one note never "adds a bunch of screwed up rests" - it simply does what it needs to prevent your change to that one note from affecting other notes. Changing one note shouldn't have unintended side effects like taking random other notes later in the measure or piece and moving them earlier - most of the time you want them
To stay right where you put them. If you want to move some random other note earlier, simply do so yourself, via cut and paste. But it is usually good that changing one note doesn't inadvertently move other notes earlier.

There are three changes you want to make here - you want to make the first note shorter, you want to move the second note earlier, and you want to make the second note longer. So, simply make those three changes - MuseScore absolutely allows this.

For the record, this is also the same way Sibelius - one of the most popular notation programs in the world and widely consider one of the easiest to use. Once you "get it" and learn how to work with it, it really is incredibly efficient.

That's not to say other methods couldn't be added some day. There have been other requests for some sort of special "scratch pad" mode that treats notes more like symbols. but so far no concrete design proposals for how such a mode could work.

I would support the request posted by Mr. Russ, and to have the possibility to allow switch off the "autocorrection mode" when note changing, and to treats notes like symbols when they can even overflow a bar, like in Paganini's Cantabile (see attachment). To prevent errors such bars (that are under or overflowed) could be automatically marked by a system color (red or magenta), but black when printing. I am sure that will be very helpful.

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I am afraid I don't understand what could be simpler than the way this works. Here is how I do it:

I want to change a sequence of dotted quaver c - semiquaver d to quaver c - quaver d.
- I am not in note entry mode.
- I click on the c.
- Click on the dot button on top. The c will be a quaver and a semiquaver rest will have been inserted.
- click on that rest.
- click on the quaver button on top.
- type d.
Done. (and the system has now gone into note entry mode)

Status needs info by design
Regression No
Workaround No

It may not be convenient for you, but is convenient for those who just want to put another note in between. Anyway, shortening note duration at a tick doesn't affect notes after it, it is designed like this and not likely to change.