My first "objection" to that button is: "new all" what? Of course after clicking it, it's obvious what it does. That's why I'm against "Singola" (single) and "Tutte" (all): that would cause the same questions: Single what? And I see the risk of it suggesting "Single part", from the label above.
But I see that this dialog has little space, so a large button (similat to others i.e. the 'Reset to defaults' in the Prefs), could be troublesome, I agree with you.
I'm seeing just two options: leave it as it is or replace the label with "New All Instr." (the abbreviation would recall the "instruments" present on the right side), and maybe enlarge by a couple of pixels the dialog default width.
I have to vote against the tooltip: I opened a couple of dialogs and I didn't find any tooltip on any button, this would make the tooltips in this dialog a bit "hidden".
Perhaps what's really missing, but nobody's been quite able to put their finger on, is that "New All" generates one part for each instrument, automatically.
Wait, maybe we are mixing concepts and misunderstanding each other.
To me (but I'm far from being an expert), a part is a collection of one or more instruments (where an instrument is a single staff / grandstaff in the score, i.e. I could have two piano grand staves, and those would be two separate instruments).
@Shoichi: Sure, but, to my understanding: the Part is the target, the object that will be created by pressing the button; the question that I'm posing here is what will make up that object, what's the complete meaning of the label.
@IsaacWeissCardshark: I don't get what you mean, if I click "New All", what I see is that MS creates a single part with all the instruments - but I may be wrong of course.
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Oh, I just tried the "New All", and indeed it is creating one part per instrument!
For some reason I remembered that it created a single part with all the instruments, but no!
Keep in mind, musescore can generate a "part" (singular) containing any set of *multiple* instruments. I would have tooltext say "Generate New Part for each Instrument", but just leave the button as is, so we don't have a huge button (as Jojo warns).
(I have some objections to some musescore terminology, e.g. the use of "part" here, but sometimes I don't know it if is worth time to debate. Internally, these "parts" are represented as "linked" "child score" "excerpts" of the "root score". "Part" is too generic and could mean any section of a score. Unfortunately I can't think of anything better to call them.)
see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2939. I went for a tooltip saying "Generate new part for each instrument", and left the button as is.
That is is for master, we may need another one for 2.1
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Ciao watery, post it also in the Italian forum https://musescore.org/it/forum/494 to find out if there are pros and cons
Ciao!
Done https://musescore.org/it/node/102391 :)
Maybe as a tooltip? Better than producing a huge button
My suggestion for tooltip text: "Automatically generate parts for all instruments"
It may be sufficient something like that?
String 645 All
String 646 Single
Not quite, in my opinion.
My first "objection" to that button is: "new all" what? Of course after clicking it, it's obvious what it does. That's why I'm against "Singola" (single) and "Tutte" (all): that would cause the same questions: Single what? And I see the risk of it suggesting "Single part", from the label above.
But I see that this dialog has little space, so a large button (similat to others i.e. the 'Reset to defaults' in the Prefs), could be troublesome, I agree with you.
I'm seeing just two options: leave it as it is or replace the label with "New All Instr." (the abbreviation would recall the "instruments" present on the right side), and maybe enlarge by a couple of pixels the dialog default width.
I have to vote against the tooltip: I opened a couple of dialogs and I didn't find any tooltip on any button, this would make the tooltips in this dialog a bit "hidden".
I think that Parts... is always implied (are instruments the human voices?) but it's just my opinion, so no binding
Perhaps what's really missing, but nobody's been quite able to put their finger on, is that "New All" generates one part for each instrument, automatically.
Wait, maybe we are mixing concepts and misunderstanding each other.
To me (but I'm far from being an expert), a part is a collection of one or more instruments (where an instrument is a single staff / grandstaff in the score, i.e. I could have two piano grand staves, and those would be two separate instruments).
@Shoichi: Sure, but, to my understanding: the Part is the target, the object that will be created by pressing the button; the question that I'm posing here is what will make up that object, what's the complete meaning of the label.
@IsaacWeissCardshark: I don't get what you mean, if I click "New All", what I see is that MS creates a single part with all the instruments - but I may be wrong of course.
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Oh, I just tried the "New All", and indeed it is creating one part per instrument!
For some reason I remembered that it created a single part with all the instruments, but no!
Now this issue must be rethought.
What about:
No. 1 is my favoured.
I'm not completely satisfied by those, but I feel they're a bit more clear than the actual "New All".
Keep in mind, musescore can generate a "part" (singular) containing any set of *multiple* instruments. I would have tooltext say "Generate New Part for each Instrument", but just leave the button as is, so we don't have a huge button (as Jojo warns).
(I have some objections to some musescore terminology, e.g. the use of "part" here, but sometimes I don't know it if is worth time to debate. Internally, these "parts" are represented as "linked" "child score" "excerpts" of the "root score". "Part" is too generic and could mean any section of a score. Unfortunately I can't think of anything better to call them.)
Will have a go at it
see https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/2939. I went for a tooltip saying "Generate new part for each instrument", and left the button as is.
That is is for master, we may need another one for 2.1
Fixed in branch master, commit 4a3e110a21
fix #102361: change label 'new all' in parts dialog or add explanatory tooltip
Fixed in branch 2.1, commit 1a70a2c890
fix #102361: change label 'new all' in parts dialog or add explanatory tooltip
Automatically closed -- issue fixed for 2 weeks with no activity.