Horizontal line between verses

• Nov 1, 2020 - 20:05

Is there a way to create a horizontal line (or bar) between verses? I'm thinking in songs or hymns where there are many verses, to aid with following the line; sometimes there is a horizontal line every 3 or 5 verses, etc.

I've tried experimenting with the horizontal line in the "Lines" menu but this offsets lyrics. I could also do a workaround making text assigned to a note just a long line of underscores and moving this to appropriate position, but I'm hoping for a more elegant solution.

Thanks,
Alex


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This isn't really built into MuseScore the way you describe it but you can open Format->Style->Text->Lyrics even (or odd) and make the lyrics underlined then all lyrics of that type verse (even or odd) will be underlined but still not a continuous line.

You wrote:
I've tried experimenting with the horizontal line in the "Lines" menu but this offsets lyrics.

Try this:
Before you move the line (and mess up the lyrics), click on the line and uncheck 'Automatic placement' in the Inspector. Then move the line between the verses you wish to separate.

In reply to by Jojo-Schmitz

I agree that this would be the most elegant (mis)use. ;-)

To make it work, one needs (almost) empty verses between existing ones. This works fine for a new score, however usually I have an existing score (hymn) with lyrics and I want to separate the verses with a horizontal line. This requires inserting a blank verse between existing ones and I almost hit the wall here because it seems to me that there isn't an easy way of doing that reliably in general (see Bug? moving verses up and down via inspector). It is still possible but more tedious and time consuming than it should be.

Incidentally, I have recently tried exactly the same thing - adding a horizontal line after every 3rd verse as this makes the verses lot easier to follow when changing the systems.

Both methods below involve quite a lot of manual adjustments, so preferrably apply them as the last step. Even so this may backfire when changing fonts, uploading to musescore.com or using the score with the mobile app etc.

Method 1 - lines
Method-1.png
Pros: independently customisable line (style, color, thickness, hooks etc.)
Cons: lines need to be adjusted for each system even if they are continuing across multiple systems

Steps:

  1. anchor the line to the first note of the staff and expand to the right as needed (Ctrl-Shift-Right multiple times).
  2. turn off autoplacement for the line via inspector
  3. set the placement to below the staff.
  4. adjust Y Offset (via inspector) for verses 3-7 (some can be grouped) to make the gap between verse 3/4 and 6/7
  5. Adjust Y Offset and appearance of the line - you can change independently its thickness, colour, style (solid, dashed etc.) add hooks etc.
  6. The line may span across multiple staves, however its continuations need to be adjusted separately anyway (e.g. offset and auto/placement above)

Method 2 - melismas
Method-2.png
Pros: works across all staves it has been applied to
Cons:

  1. re-numbering the verses needs to be done one at a time and in special order
  2. the internal numbering becomes out of order
  3. the default melisma thickness is too heavy for my taste but its thickness cannot be adjusted separately; any change affects the "real" melismas as well
  4. handling of melismas may change in future versions, so at some point it may stop working.
  5. it is quite difficult to find the anchor of the line - neither the line nor the invisible text are clickable (you need to click the first lyrics in the verse above or below and then use down/up arrow to select it)

Steps:
(Ideally, you would add almost empty verse 8 and push it upwards to 4 by changing verse number via the inspector but at the moment it does not work that way - see my other post above and Bug? moving verses up and down via inspector.

  1. start with the most bottom verse (7) and re-number it via inspector to 9
  2. then re-number verses 6, 5, 4 one by one to 7, 6 and 5 respectively
  3. create verses 4 and 7 with invisible lyrics with melismas (Ctrl-Space as invisible text and _ multiple times to create the melisma line)
  4. adjust Y Offset (via inspector) for verses 4-9 (some can be grouped) to make the gap between verse 3 and 5 smaller
  5. adjust the melisma thickness if desired (Format / Style / Lyrics).

As a variant of this method, you could leave the original verses as they were and add melismas in two new verses (8,9) and adjust their Y offsets as desired.

Another method?
Not really, I have also tried underlined lyrics and frames around them but no great joy here:
Method-3-4.png

This is so far what I came up with. Maybe someone else has any other smart idea?

In reply to by .m.i.r.o.

Not ideal either, but just playing a bit with spacing:
312457-spacing-lyrics.png

Steps:

  1. Right-click a lyric in verse4
  2. Select → More…
  3. Check Same subtype
  4. Repeat for all following verses, but now also choose Add to selection in the bottom part of the selection dialog
  5. Use the inspector to increase the Y-offset (with 1sp in this image)
  6. Right-click a lyric in verse7, Select → More…
  7. This time pick again Same subtype but choose Remove from selection
  8. Use the inspector to turn them italic
  9. Right-click a lyric in verse7, Select → More… Same subtype
  10. Again use the inspector to increase the Y-offset

Pro: survives almost all layout changes
Con: It's no line :)

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