New: Aegean Symphonic Orchestra Soundfont Sf2

• Aug 4, 2017 - 16:58

A gift to Musescore users: Aegean Symphonic Orchestra, SF2 Soundfont.

For classical music; in SF2 format, Balanced and GM compatible.

Details, Samples and Download: https://sites.google.com/view/hed-sounds/aegean-symphonic-orchestra


Comments

In reply to by Elwin

I love the tests.
I would appreciate it if you told me which files you used for the test (I've always wondered what kind of tests other people do).
If these files are not available online (in musescore.com) and you add them here, I can also test them.
Thank you for attention. :)

In reply to by Ziya Mete Demircan

I'm currently listening to the 1812 Overture played by Agean Symphonic Orchestra. Here's what I notice instantly.
1) It is a little lacking in depth.
2) There are certain notes in the woodwinds that tend to dominate over the entire Orchestra.
3) Section strings are astounding, They blend really well.
4) The Solo strings do not sound like strings at all. You might want to check that out.

Over all, I am impressed with This SoundFont. The only thing I don't like is the Solo Strings, as well as some notes in Woodwinds.

In reply to by Elwin

Notice and suggestions:
1. You can try different reverbation settings.
2. With mixer settings: you can increase the volume of strings or reduce the volume of woodwinds.
3.
4. Violin solo, viola solo, cello solo, contrabass solo instruments are not solo strings (group). These are solo instruments. (solo violin = 1 violin)

In reply to by Ziya Mete Demircan

1) I tried it with the settings you suggested. I am not good with reverb settings, so I'll leave that alone
2) It is certain notes within the instrument that dominate.
4) I am aware that solo instruments are not group instruments. What I wanted to point out was that the sound is less realistic.

In reply to by Elwin

  1. Ok
  2. I checked, but I could not find it. Do you know which wood instruments have this problem? (and which notes) Another thing I suspect is the resonance of the speakers. Do you get the same result as headphones?
  3. OK. This audio font uses VPO samples. Since the some instruments samples are unstable in themselves, I have worked on these samples and tried to do the best that I can. But that's the material. And everything I can do with this material can only be as close to the original quality that it has. (sometimes a bit worse, sometimes a bit better).
    When I created this SoundFont, the main idea was that SoundFont was balanced in itself.

Please specify your thoughts on problems and balancing here.
I can make version 2.3 by doing some fixes on this.

As far as I've seen so far, most of the instruments have what seems to be a metallic (or echo?) sound to it. Perhaps this is reverb? I'm not sure. When I listen to the entire symphonic orchestra it sounds good.

In reply to by mike320

Since the samples on the site are compressed using ogg, the quality may be somewhat lower. (Average bitrate is 113kbps)

If you are testing on your own computer: Have you tried listening by switching off (or adjusting) the reverb? Also, turn off the compressor if it is on.

There is no reverb or echo effect on the original VPO2 samples.

I tested your https://musescore.com/user/6105546/scores/2522981 file (William Tell Overture). It sounded pretty good on my computer (with "Aegean Symphonic Orchestra" soundfont) :)
Test it: https://soundcloud.com/ziya-mete-demircan/william-tell-overture-aegean-… (320kbs VBR) (Because of the compression, Cymbals and High-frequencies will not be sound well. These problems are not present in the original SoundFont and in the original wav file I exported. It is caused by compression.)

In reply to by mike320

I understand what the "metallic" problem is today :)

Some parts of this SoundFont are extremely stereo.

If the headphone or speaker jack is loose, or the sound comes from only one channel (for some other reason), then sounds are strangely metallic. Because you hear plus the reverb of the other channel (In addition to the sound of the channel you normally listen to).

I think it is necessary to try to listen to the stereo (check that the connections are tight and to have both speakers are on).

In reply to by Ziya Mete Demircan

With other soundfonts I had problems with the bassoon not sounding quite right. I had the same problem with ASO but I wondered how it would sound with the dark bassoon as Grieg intended that part to be dark and mysterious. The dark bassoon works so well for the start so that's what I have there. The only problem is in the beginning every line is accented with a stopped horn. I used sordino horn because it sounded more similar to stopped horn than open horn but it still is different. Thinking about it, what it was missing was the nasal quality. Oboes possess a lot of this quality so I will duplicate the part on a hidden stave of oboe. Maybe I should use dark oboe.

Here's a suggestion, for each of the String sections, add a "Solo" articulation, so that way should the composer desire a "Solo" within the section, an extra staff doesn't have to be added.

I'd love to try your soundfont with Musescore but ... If I follow the link to Google Drive I can only download a file: "ASO-sf2_2.7z which I cannot open. Changing the extension to "zip" or "sit" doesn't help.

I tried out this SoundFont, and it sounds AWESOME!!! I would definitely say that the samples came from Virtual Playing Orchestra, No Budget Orchestra, Sonatina Symphonic Orchestra, etc.

Can someone explain how to use the aso-instruments.xml file. The last time I used a file, I ended up with channels for both the default xml and the added xml file every time I added an instrument (so for example every flute was defined twice in the mixer).

In reply to by mike320

Sometimes what you say is happening for me too, but not always.

I used the following definitions (in aso-instruments.xml file) so that the software doesn't mix instruments:
"aso- prefix" and special genre definition "asoorch":

example:

<Instrument id="aso-glockenspiel">
...
<genre>asoorch</genre>

But, maybe it probably wasn't enough. (Or there is a bug somewhere in MS)

Maybe the only place where the software can fall into the trap:

<musicXMLid>pitched-percussion.glockenspiel</musicXMLid>

//Because I can't use special additions (prefix, postfix, insert) here.
I don't know.

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But; Following is absolutely normal:

some instruments uses 2 channels.
1 Flute;
2 Dark Flute (Sordino)
...
1 Clarinet;
2 Dark Clarinet (Sordino)
...
1. Vibraphone (Auto Damp)
2. Vibraphone (Open)

some uses 4 channels:
1. Violin Section;
2. Violin Section-pizzicato;
3. Violin Section-tremolo;
4. Violin Section-sordino

some uses 6 channels:
String Ensemble-pizzicato
String Ensemble-tremolo
String Ensemble-sordino
String Ensemble-sordino and pizzicato
String Ensemble-sordino and tremolo

It is especially set up so that it can be used easily with the staff-text.

In reply to by Ziya Mete Demircan

I haven't tried your instruments file yet, because I don't want to have the same problem again. I know you made the definitions to take advantage of the extra sounds you created, but I only want 4 channels for my violin section-not 7.

What do I do in the preferences to make sure only one set of definitions is used. I'm hoping someone knows how to make it work correctly.

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