Grace notes playing on the beat instead of before.
I have seen posts about the issues with grace notes from 2011, and I don't understand why there is still no option to edit the timing of them.
Currently, 32nd note grace notes, when placed before a dotted crotchet, run over into the beat, instead of leading up to it, please add an option to adjust this.
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Regarding playback...
For 'out of the box' simplicity, the 'acciaccatura' - the first icon in the grace notes palette - might suffice.
For finer control over note attack and release see:
https://musescore.org/en/project/articulation-and-ornamentation-control
In reply to Regarding playback... For … by Jm6stringer
Thank you, I'll check that post out.
and I don't understand why there is still no option to edit the timing of them.
Because code doesn't magically appear, but someone has to actually write it (and write it well); then someone else has to review it and merge it into the MuseScore codebase and then a release needs to be created including it.
So far, everybody that has contributed has done so on different areas than this. That's why.
In reply to and I don't understand why… by jeetee
And everyone also has to agree that it's the right thing done the right way, which is often difficult.
In reply to And everyone also has to… by [DELETED] 1831606
This is so true. But my personal opinion is, MuseScore is a notation programme, these tiny details (I'm gonna call them "tiny" because the duration differences between ideal and present are indeed tiny) of playback aren't likely to get "High" or even "Medium" priority. Not to mention we already have a plugin to control these.
In reply to and I don't understand why… by jeetee
yes, these posts they're talking about are about the suggestions being made for all that to happen
It is my understanding that, depending on the musical time period we are talking about, a grace note is indeed played on the beat. The acciaccatura is played before the beat.
In reply to It is my understanding that,… by bobjp
"Grace note" is a quasi-technical term for this set of appoggiatura and accacciatura. Appoggiature are played on the beat.
In reply to "Grace note" is a quasi… by [DELETED] 1831606
Though thats 'technically true', 99% of performers play them before the beat 99% of the time.
In reply to Though thats 'technically… by Alex Shen1
That is certainly not so in early music. Appoggiaturas are to be played on the beat, and I have never heard live or on recording any performer do otherwise. They are not an "ornament" but a contrapuntal feature sometimes notated as an ornament.
In reply to Though thats 'technically… by Alex Shen1
if you look at early music it is complete nonsense.
If you look at music of now: It is standard on guitar etc to strum a chord and then hammer on or pull off a note after that and i am shure hatt are more than 1 % of 1%
In reply to if you look at early music… by wolfgan
Luckily no other instruments than Guitar exist..
In reply to Luckily no other instruments… by jeetee
And I thought Piano were the only instrument ;-)
In reply to And I thought Piano were the… by Jojo-Schmitz
I've been thinking Early Music is pretty good all these years. I didn't realize it was complete nonsense.
In reply to I've been thinking Early… by [DELETED] 1831606
sorry for the formulation: should say:
if you look at early music it is completely wrong that 99% of the ornaments start before the beat (the opposite would be more or less true ). Even today there are at least more than 1% of ornaments starting on the beat (and then the example of guitars to only mention one)
In reply to sorry for the formulation:… by wolfgan
That's correct (in Early Music), the ornaments do not start before the beat. Where ornaments start depend upon the era and style and performance tradition of the music, not so much on the instrument (although, of course, there are instrument-specific ornaments, e.g., bagpipes).
In reply to That's correct (in Early… by [DELETED] 1831606
I only mentioned the guitar because I am a guitar and luteplayer and thougt it was better not to talk about instruments I dont play
In reply to It is my understanding that,… by bobjp
Acciaccaturas are often played on the beat as well, depends on era, genre, instrument, and personal style.