Musescore 4 the worse version ever
The worst of all!
What a joy that version 3 has remained installed! nothing goes in version 4 that I use with windows 10 only for an hour with my I7 Laptop
- Poor quality display
- sound also (and lagging)
- the program is very slow when writing a score and lagging too
- there is no more control of midi channels
And I’ve only been using it...
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I'd have to disagree with you on almost everything that you've brought up here.
1. I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "display", but the general design and layout of 4 is considerably better looking and functionally more helpful than 3 and if you're talking about bad screen resolution then I'm afraid that's an issue on your end.
2. The playback is one of the most improved areas of Musescore 4. Undoubtedly there are a decent number of issues with the new playback, but you mentioned none of them here. All you need to do is fiddle with the settings a little bit and it will sound great. I'm also experiencing zero playback lag.
3. I have no idea what you're on about with the program being slow. My pc also has an i7 and it rarely hits 20% usage. It also doesn't go above 1gb of RAM and has negligible GPU usage.
4. I don't use the midi channels so I can't comment on this.
In reply to I'd have to disagree with… by SLimboi
I think you just need a 'good' computer. I have a bunch of computers. And Musescore4 only works acceptably on my newest one.
I am not a fan of using all this computing power for a notation program, BUT it is a massive improvement you can't deny that.
With that said I am waiting until sometime next year to move everything over to the new version. However, I am sure they will work out all the problems and in a few more months it will be good.
In reply to I think you just need a … by Unknown Prodigy
With the experience of having notated over 6000pp of music in Musescore in the last few years, I observe on a 6 year old WIndows 10 laptop and a new Win 11 laptop (both i7 16GB SSD although varying i7 generations) that for notation entry, Musescore 4 on the faster device is much slower than Musescore 3 on the slower device both from a UI interaction POV and the response time of the software.
In reply to I'd have to disagree with… by SLimboi
Kneejerk disagreement isn’t very helpful. It is possible that people have very different experiences on different hardware and operating systems. Assume good faith.
In reply to Kneejerk disagreement isn’t… by Moilleadóir
I'd hardly call it kneejerk when they take the time to respond in detail to each point in turn, and don't try to guess on the one point they hadn't had direct experience with. Kneejerk would be just telling them they're wrong, and it's great, and leaving it at that.
In reply to I'd have to disagree with… by SLimboi
MIDI channels are controlled from the mixer, which can be shown/hidden by pressing F10, or by way of a button right in the middle of the menu bar. I wasn't aware of that feature in version 3. Apparently it was there, but much less functional than it is in 4.0. They probably just haven't been able to find the new shortcut.
Does your laptop have a mechanical hard disk or solid state, (SSD) ?
How much RAM do you have?
Does task manager give you any clues as to where the problem lies?
the same on Macs,
Cursing 4.0; Unfortunatelly I´ve already written some pieces in the new format - but I´ve returned to 3 with relief. To the other poits I wand to add:#
- no tabs anymore (confusing, if working with more pieces at the time)
- Can´t open a file by dobble click
- stupid chord-names like Be10d instead of Bb
- the exzerpts can´t be combined as freely als before (e.g. voice and piano)
In reply to the same on Macs, Cursing 4… by musterknabe
Tha tabs issue is by design.
The double click issue seems Mac specific.
The chord name issue has a good workaround.
The excerpts issue is yet unreported as far as I can tell
In reply to the same on Macs, Cursing 4… by musterknabe
Chord names seem to be just fine in standard or jazz format - at least for me on Windows
The excerpts are now called parts; each one has the possibility to switch any instrument/s from the score on or off so I dare assuming you just haven't found that option in the instruments panel - IMHO that is a huge improvement over MU3
![MU4_parts_instruments.png]( "MU4_parts_instruments.png")
In reply to Chord names seem to be just… by the_mnbvcx
excerpts are now called parts
like they have been called ever since
I must agree that MS 4 is very clunky. It jumps around, has plug in corruption problems. I think the channel strip should be removed.
Before you "Ad hominem" me, I'm running a 16GB DDR3 Mac on Monterey so my Mac is well up to running musescore. It has zero issues running Logic Pro which is far superior and processor hungry.
Why does musescore 4 have a channel strip when it's obviously not up to running complex algorithms?
I use musescore3 to write score and if I want it sound good send midi to Logic and add real plug ins and have a proper channel strip that doesn't hiss at you when you add one effect (musescore 4)
Playback is a crap shoot now and sounds different each play because of the channel strip inconsistencies and major dynamic randomness.
I write orchestra so you have to split your scores to playback because it just can't play more than 10 channels. People complained about the sound, now they have ruined a great score writing tool for a crap version of Logic. If you want a good sound you have to pay for it nobby!
In reply to I must agree that MS 4 is… by msmhqwx6d7
FWIW, I run MS4 with MuseSounds on an old dual core 8 gb laptop. Works fine even in a 19 staff orchestra score.
I was first very happy about MuseScore 4 which seems to have very nice idea behind.
But when using it, I lost already 2 scores which are not anymore launchable even if I have created them using MuseScore 4 over several days. But then, some days later while I haven't used MuseScore 4 at all, I start it again and load the score and ... MuseScore disappears from the User Interface without any error message. Always when I load the same score again. No chance to recover.
Other scores are working but some don't.
It is still a worse version, this must be said. But I am contributing with bug reports as much as I can and hope that the bugs are fixed soon. Never load and use a 4.0 Version for true work. This is wisdom.
In reply to I was first very happy about… by fluegeltraum
I've had scores give me a warning that they're corrupted when trying to open them, but there's still the option to ignore and open it anyway. There's usually just one object that's causing the problem, but it can be a bit hard to find sometimes. I'm not sure why you're having it just crash with no error message, but that sounds like it might be a bug in MuseScore itself, not a error in the score. One thing I did before I started using MuseScore 4, which I'd definitely recommend, was make a separate copy of all my MuseScore 3 scores, so that I can still open them in 3 if I want to, just in case. I basically made a separate backup folder of scores that I'll never open in 4, and only convert the ones in my original folder.
A month later, I didn’t change anything at all to what I wrote: I deleted Musescore 4, and reinstalled Musescore 3.
As I also knew the time when the site offered scores without having to pay anything, I think I will soon abandon this project.
The "novelty" added to Musescore 4 makes this program (which I have been using since its creation) unusable: many much better and free DAW exist, very easy to use and low in resources. Why does Musescore not remain only a score editing software, which it did very well until now? No doubt that in a short time, version 5 will use nespresso capsules to make coffees and will suck as well as a Dyson...
In reply to A month later, I didn’t… by Eljoj
Except that a DAW is not a good composing tool for someone that only knows notation. Plus you need better fonts than the free ones.
And it was illegal for .com to offer many of those scores for free.
I'm not sure what novelty you are talking about. Playback is vital to composition.
In reply to A month later, I didn’t… by Eljoj
I want that apk please. I'm tired of Musescore 4
I wrote a lot of parts in MS3 and now I'm trying to write some new ones in MS4 and I agree that MS4 is much slower (in everything) than MS3:
- writing notes (sometimes it happens that I mark something, but it gets marked after a while)
- scrolling the sheet - I drag the mouse, but it starts scrolling after a while
- playing notes - quite often the sound plays, but the cursor gets stuck and jumps after a while
- response in everything is worse
It's very annoying, I've had a few times where I've accidentally moved a few notes while trying to scroll the sheet, or even deleted something.
The computer I'm using is quite powerful (i7, 32GB RAM, SSD, ...). On a weaker computer, I can't use MS4 at all (even playback gets stuck).
It's a big disappointment, after a few hours of writing notes I'm giving up. I'm going back to MS3 and I prefer to manually rewrite the part of the sheet music I have written in MS4 back in MS3 (because MS4 file can't be opened in MS3 anymore :( )
In reply to I wrote a lot of parts in… by JnZ
FWIW. My old i5 4440 quad core 16 GB ram SSD dinosaur runs MS4 very well. Not perfect. But well. I did make two small adjustments. I raised the buffer in MS4, and lowered my sound device bit rate a notch. I've also got it running well, but not as good, on my far lesser computers. An audio interface is the final piece of the puzzle for them. It is possible.
You do know that MS4 has scroll bars so that you don't have to drag a score around. If you export a score from MS4 as mxl you can open it in MS3.
It's probably your computer
There endless complaints about MU4. But yours are not well explained and easily to reproduce. However the top thread in the development forum is that one:
https://musescore.org/en/node/342126
If you go there you can find instructions on how to use a 3.7 mostly bug fixed version, that we hope may become a fork soon.
I do must agree! I can't even change the system language , which was very easy on version 3.
Version 4 uses the Windows language system, and do not offer any possibility to change it into English.
I'll wait for the version 5.
In reply to I do must agree! I can't… by hudson
Muse Hub is in English, but MuseScore 4 do not offer this possibility. Please, see picture attached.
In reply to I do must agree! I can't… by hudson
What?? Mu4 can change to all languages that Mu3 could switch to and in the same way. Except that in order to take effect you'd need to restart MuseScore (and Muse Hub too, as the message there clearly indicates, not to that the translations are quite horrible)