MuseScore 4 is OUT NOW!

Where is the 'concert pitch' button that was in MuseScore 3?

I downloaded MuseScore 4 and Muse Hub this morning. I imported a few files that were originally created in MuseScore 3. Two brass quintet files played back very nicely with real instrument sounds. A full score for small concert band did not play back well. Sounds were garbled and did not line up rhythmically. Any recommendations?

Have I missed something, or are multi-measure repeats still not added? When can we expect this if not?

I gave this initial release a review:
https://youtu.be/eM-WWBDmEqs
Covering:
- Installation
- Play Engine
- Sounds
- Using time-tested hacks for improved playback rendering
- Concerns and recommendations

Looking forward to ongoing development and improvements!

-Carl

Anyone else having this problem? When i start up an old score from v3 into v4, it just randomly closes the app and i cant access it. When I try to reopen the quit score it doesn't work. Can someone help?

Hello,

2 questions:

• where can I provide feedback about accessibility and keyboard shortcuts etc, as you asked in a post?
• Where can I download latest portable version of MS? It seems, that 4.0 version is not portable.

Thanks.

Terrible update. I'd rather wait for a finished product than be given one that doesn't work.

I've been looking now for close to an hour, but where do I have to click to install MuseScore and the Muse Hub on a different drive than the boot drive? And is there a button to have the Muse Hub behave like normal programmes, rather than disappearing into the system tray together with the volume mixer?

With this big overhaul, any chance we will be getting a version for iPad in the near future?

I have installed MuseHub and when opened it just shows some sort of error message as seen in the attachment. Is there any way to fix this? or download the sounds online and then bring them into the program?

If I download sounds from MuseHub on a device with internet connection, am I able to copy the files from the downloads folder onto a computer without any internet connection and then use them in MS4?

Thank you very much for your team!!
You are doing a very good and useful job!

I installed today Version 4.0 (on MAC OS 12.6.2), Keyboard input is like pressing one key, again, again: and only one note appears. MuseScore 3 does a great job an the same Computer/Keyboard.
And where is the property "workNumber"? I used to write down the opus, now it is gone...?

I wish i could use Musescore 4 but when i try and d/l it with Muse_Hub the installation process stalls very quickly and the only thing installed on my computer is a 21.3 Mo prog ... and when I d/l it without Muse_Hub i cannot use Soundfonts any more ... very disappointing ... even more disappoitning not to have any answer to my requests on Muse Hub page, except than "reboot your computer" which I had thought of doing before !
I am using windows 11

The MuseScore plugins page lists compatibility with 1.x, 2.x, 3.x and "any". Should there be a 4.x?

https://musescore.org/en/plugins

Here is another review video for MuseScore 4 showing a real-world project and the benefits of the new Muse Sounds for proof-of-concept rendering. I cover a solution for some of the trouble that Linux folks might be having with the Muse Hub back-end service that isn't running in some cases. I also cover navigation for the soundfont sounds which is done from the instrument panel rather than the mixer (which is where Muse Sounds are applied). As others have suggested, this navigation should probably be more universal from the mixer... but if you have been missing out on some of the MS Basic sounds that you have used in the past, or if some sounds are lost when you import older scores into MuseScore 4, I show you where to find them and how to apply them:

https://youtu.be/aOam_D0TNIU

Enjoy.

-Carl

The program will not run after downloading 'MuseScore4'.

When I heard that MuseScore was released as a new version, I ran an upgrade on 'MuseScore4.'

I tried running 'MuseScore4' after the update, but the file did not open.

So I removed 'MuseHub' and 'MuseScore4' from my computer and reinstalled it, but it still doesn't work.

My computer is using 'Window10', and the computer operating system is based on 'x64'.
And the audio interface is using 'U-PHORIA UMC204HD', a product of 'Behringer', and 'Current Sample Rate' is '48000Hz'.

I'd like to know why this problem occurred and how to solve it.

Why does Muse.service run all the time and chew up CPU when neither MuseScore nor MuseHub client are running? It frequently shows up as the top consumer of CPU in "top" when nothing else is running except a terminal window showing the results.

As much as I looked forward to MS4, I cannot use it. On Windows the resizing to allow MS4 and another app is such that I cannot put them side by side or up and down. Also in Windows, the latency issue is horrible, even if the buffers are adjusted. You might want to look at Jack in Linux to see how it adjust buffers. Unless you use a Debian package in Linux, you don't receive the Hub. And using the Deb package of Hub you don't receive the demo charts. For right now I will go back to 3 until a see a new update to 4 is made available. Good Luck !!!!

Hello, I'm sorry, but that would be nice if you could let us edit how long the sidebar(s) would it be (See 1st picture). Also, when I try to change the time signature, MuseScore crashes, literally, constantly, it is impossible to change the time signature in the ongoing score. Thirdly, I don't know if it is for me, but sometimes when typing notes and playback comes laggy, not always, but pretty frequently. But, in general, there is better than MuseScore 3 version, and very aesthetic and modern looking, only to change the edges, because now they take up a lot of space, and at least for me, it is impossible to concentrate on the score, and I know that it is a new version, and for stability, it will take some time, but this is just observations. And I remembered, it would be nice to have the "Synthesizer" tool as it was in MuseScore 3 to edit reverb, lows, and highs, maybe there is, but I cannot find it. :)

I downloaded the "MuseScore-4.0.0-x86_64.AppImage" file onto Ubuntu and set the "executable as program" property and when I double-click or right-click "run" nothing happens. No screen flash, no images or dialog or error and system monitor indicates there is nothing running associated with this install. Downloaded more than once.
i have had 3.6.2 running for a few days while starting to learn it.
ADDED: When I tried to execute it from command line I got the notice I have to use FUSE to run it. It that correct? I have installed AppImage files before without this step.
ADDED2: I installed test-snapd-fuse-consumer and got the message the file could only be extracted.
I attempted an extract and got a lib error. My limited tool kit has been expended.

Yeah, it may look good on Windows, but has any of the developers ever tried MuseScore 4 on a Linux desktop with fractional scaling (like 125%)? It looks god-awful. You need to port it to QT 6. See the screenshot which features another QT app, "Strawberry", which uses QT6.

extremly unstable. Have found 4 bugs in less then 10mins (2 of them beeing program crashes), I posted them in forum as the bug report system doesn't even list 4.0.0. With so many bugs you should have implemented a bug report function (like most modern systems have) that auto-collects data from crashes or on request. I guess MuseScore 4 needs a looooot of work before it becomes usable at all.

The video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7dagae87eM ) advises 'reset all styles to default'. That option is not there on my download of Musescore 4.
How do I do it?

I'm a music teacher who is pretty comfortable with software and technology. I've used MuseScore for many years to create sheet music for students and ensembles. Musescore 4 in its current iteration is unusable for me, and probably for most of my students and non-techy music teachers. This is because of the computing power recommended for using it, which is not going to be on the average person's several-years-old home computer or laptop. Secondly, I wasn't able to simply download the software and start using it.

Right "out of the box" on my two computers, Musescore 4 is unusable. On my studio computer (2 cores, 4G RAM, Windows 10) I can enter notes and play them back, but the sound is laggy and scratchy as has been mentioned in many other bug reports I've read. On my office computer (4 cores, 8G RAM, Windows 10), there is no sound on note entry and playback does not work at all. I've tried implementing the two main fixes that have been recommended elsewhere: changing the buffer size in Musescore preferences, and changing the sample rate for my speakers in the Windows Control Panel. (This second fix is way beyond the comfort zone of people looking for plug-and-play software.) I'm not going to dig further for any other deeply-buried Windows settings to adjust, because I don't think your software should demand this much tinkering from the average user.

I'm requesting that the Musescore 4 development team keep in mind the average CPU capabilities and default sound settings of "home users." The full product I've seen in demo videos looks amazing, but it will be unfortunate if the majority of your user base will not be able to access its many features, or even get the software to work upon installation.

I will try to install and use version 4 again in a month or two as bug solutions are implemented, but it may never be an option for me to use on my studio computer. Will Musescore 3.6 remain available for download for people who need a less resource-intensive alternative?

I have opened a score that I created in MS3. When I try to play it in MS4, there is horrible delay, lag, it's unplayable and unrecognizable.

I have a computer with 2.0 GB of RAM memory and in this new version the sound is choppy, I had to stay with the previous version. It's a shame

I love the muse hub sounds and the enhancements. My only problem, is saving to YouTube. I go through the usual procedure but my new compositions do not appear in YouTube. Maybe I'm doing something wrong but....

Warning! Attention!
call of
c:...\musescore4.exe -o /file.mscx /file.mscz
DELETES ALL FILES
on computer (Windows 10)
- just running my backup - not absolutley sure what was deleted, but most under \user\*

Amazing I just downloaded and started a new arrangement on it but I got a problem. I downloaded the orchestral suite from the HUB, but I'm using a Midi keyboard and I find a high latency problem worse than in musescore 3. I can't find the panel in I/O where tyou could choose what audio motor engine use to reduce latency. Any solution?

Hi,

I'm wondering on how I can connect my Roland FP-30x in here using Bluetooth MIDI. I was able to connect both Bluetooth audio and MIDI in my android phone and it's working fine but even my windows laptop says the MIDI is 'paired', Musescore doesn't detect it. If it's plugged via USB cable though, it's detected. I'm kinda new with this bluetooth MIDI thing, so apologies if I missed something. Any ideas if this is possible or how can I resolve this? Is this a Windows thing? Thanks!

Hi there,
I usually use an organ sound bank under Musescore v3.6 "Orgue de salon.sf2", which can be found here: http://sonimusicae.free.fr/orguedesalon.html.
This sound bank inherently has many different organ stops. I imported it under Musescore v4. Musescore detects it well for me in the choice of instruments, but unfortunately, I no longer have the possibility of choosing one of the particular organ stops offered in this entire sound bank. It's a shame, I see this as a regression.
Is anyone else having this problem ?
thanks a lot for your help

Hi, I have noted a problem with the sound of the bb note of the grand piano and the associated chords such as Bb or Gm for example. There is an unsollicited high harmonic that should be deleted, I believe.

Baixei o programa em https://musescore.org/en/download e fiz a instalação normalmente.
Deu erro na hora de iniciar o musescore 4.0
A mensagem anexa dizia que "Não foi possível localizar o ponto de entrada do procedimento.
Qual a solução?

Estuve revisando la nueva versión de musescore, y sin duda se han agregado nuevas características y algunas ya existentes se modificaron. Sin embargo, y por curiosidad no encontré la función de "Captura de imágen", lo cual para mí imprescindible, ya que al momento de terminar de editar una partitura, me toca copiarla a otros programas que utilizo, tales como Word o Power Point. Espero que pongan atención a ese detalle, o me digan cómo puedo encontrarla en la nueva versión.

Here is an update review with a music example and recommendations for crash workarounds that I have been experiencing:
https://youtu.be/CdTqVVQhf8g

It's a long,wide ranging discussion... grab a cup of coffee.

Strategies for improving Muse Brass playback:
I provide plain score and playback score comparisons and also live reference material in a discussion on strategies for making final Musescore 4 mock-ups. We also discuss the power of MIDI sequencing philosophy and how to apply it to notation play engines.

https://youtu.be/yXpWG5BAFdM

Enjoy!

-Carl

Olá.

Começo elogiando o incrível trabalho. O Musescore é impressionante. A usabilidade é maravilhosa, o resultado e a execução também.
Gosto e uso a ferramenta desde a versão 2. É a melhor alternativa para o Avid Sibelius, que até parei de usar depois de ter experimentado o Musescore 3.6.2.
Queria de agradecer e elogiar o trabalho de todos vocês.
Gostaria também de relatar que, em meu computador, o Musescore 4 fica muito lento, a ponto de ser inviável utilizar, muitas vezes fechando inesperadamente, o que me faz perder parte do meu trabalho musical. Eu sei que pode ser um problema no meu computador mesmo, e não no Musescore. Eu uso Windows 10, Ryzen 7 2700, 16GB de RAM e 1TB de armazenamento. Não acho uma configuração tão ruim, mas vai saber... Gostaria de saber se mais pessoas estão passando por isso ou se tem alguma coisa que eu possa fazer, como usuário, para melhorar o desempenho e evitar que o Musescore feche na hora errada.

Muito obrigado pelo trabalho. Vocês são extremamente talentosos e empenhados.

P.S.: Não tenho imagens para postar como evidências dos problemas que descrevi, porque estão relacionados a desempenho.

The update was automaticly, but in this new version 4.0.1 I lost the mixer, I am trying by F10, Menu or select into quick access and doesn's show it, please could you fix or sent to me the previous version in order to continue work.
See the image attached.

When I said previous version I mean Musescore 4, because a version 4.0.1 I had the issue.
You sent to me a link in order to get any 3.x version.
I've created many pieces and this are not compatible with any version 3.x

Or try to fix the issue ir order to use the mixer.

linux download link missing
https://musescore.org/en/download#Older-and-unsupported-versions

I love MuseScore. I've been creating music with it (with my best friend, an ocean away) for approaching ten years now. I also just finally got to uploading some of our work to my profile, as a demonstration of what we use it for.
I am excited for version 4. But unfortunately, I'm one of those diehard Sf2 users; being able to switch between instruments on a single soundfont, manually, is a necessity for the kind of music I produce. And I am also a Linux user, so relying on older versions is.. less than ideal. (I can never get the UI to format at an appropriate size. Can't even add new drum notes, thanks to this. But that's what happens when you change computers; UI for deprecated software gets lost by the wayside.)
I'm not here to complain, nor question, nor rush the developers. I am here to vouch support for them and at least lend my vote to "yeah, implementing manual instrument preset switching is a Good Idea! that functionality has been crucial to at least one MuseScore user!"
I would love to make use of version 4. It looks, in all respects, absolutely ideal, refined, professional, convenient. I await that day with bated breath.
<3

Hola a todos:
He instalado Musescore 4.0.1
En ppio. abría, y después de descargar librerías de sonido, ahora, al clikar acceso directo, abre 3 segundos, el cartel de inicio dice "cargando" y se cierra automáticamente, así siempre.
¿Alguien reconoce y ha solucionado este error?
Mi ordenador / computadora es un I5 11ª generación, 32Gb RAM, Disco duro NMWE M2

Generally speaking, I love musescore and was looking forward for any update.
Musescore 4 is so disappointing, makes it unwokable for me.

I do like some new features, but things that used to be so intuitive are no longer such.
couple of examples: hit tab, to skip to next measure when you writing chords.
no longer support tabs for different projects.
No camera for snips (or maybe there is, and I haven't noticed?).

There were more, but I really went back to musescore 3, which I hope they will continue and support, so I don't remember it all.
Completely different experience, and I hope with feedback, they will improve it.

I'm super happy with the release of 4.0.1. As a light user, it really addressed two of the most important issues I've encountered (score corruption and NumPad keys).
You guys really nails the priorities. Thanks for the effort.

On 20 December, 2022, while testing Musescore 4.0.0, I posted:
"4. Another basic observation was that I did not hear anything when changing or entering a note.
The mixer window (F10) was completely empty, although I have selected the "Organ" instrument.
I simply restarted Musescore 4 and the playback/instrument issues were solved."

Unfortunately, this happened again, including with Musescore 4.0.1.
I even needed to close/restart the application several time before getting a populated mixer window and the ability to click on the play button.

I am aware that this is difficult to handle as this is not a systematic bug and there is no special trigger, the actions simply being:
- start Musescore
- click on one of the recently opened score
- press F10 to see the empty Mixer window.

Here's another video discussing techniques for realism in MuseScore 4. This one deals with work-arounds for current limitations. Comparison examples are provided.
Enjoy:
https://youtu.be/UkCVjEfR694

-Carl

Actualicé de M3 a M4 y funcionó unos días,al actualizar al 4.0.1 empezaron los problemas y ahora no se ejecuta,he instalado la versión anterior y tampoco, aparece la ventana azul y o bien se cierra o aparece una ventana de Windows que dice que hay un problema, las versiones 3 de Musescore si funcionan.
A alguien mas le pasa?
Gracias

Hello. I can not choose multi file. Multi selected not work. Can you help?

Anyone know if theres a way I can use musescore 3 while I wait for them to polish out this rough new development? I tried to just click on it but it wouldn't launch

I know you already have a million comments—but I've been using MS4, and I'm so impressed, I had to pass along my admiration.

The new interface is brilliantly clear and well organized. The combination of the new music font, and the more intelligent handling of note placement, ties, and other elements has completely overcome any perceptions I've had that MS wasn't "ready for prime time".

Out of curiosity, I tried Dorico SE, Steinberg's free basic version of their notation app. Even for this free version, you're required to create an account, install various security-related packages, and go through an elaborate online authentication/registration process. (A third-party app called "eLicense Control" also enters into it, though I'm still not sure how or why.) And while many people say Dorico's the easiest, fastest notation system, I found it scattered and unintuitive, and had to search the Web even for some basic operations. (Sure, it's not as bad as Finale—but is that saying much? 😁)

By comparison, MS4 is like a cool, refreshing breeze. One-click installs with Muse Hub (including the incredible new sounds!). No mysterious security packages or license/registration hoop-jumping. And everything's right there in the workspace, not hidden away in layers of complexity.

I think MS is in a position to revolutionize composing and arranging. Now any kid in his bedroom with the desire to learn about music has an entire scoring system and virtual orchestra at their disposal. It's so easy to use, and the results look and sound so good. You're doing more than providing tools for experienced musicians... You're encouraging new musicians to learn, create and grow.

Many people have commented on how much pop music has declined over the last few decades—how bland and formulaic it's become. I predict we'll soon see a new wave of musical depth, creativity and meaning, as MS empowers a new generation of composers and arrangers.

Thanks for all your hard work. What an amazing project MS has become. Cheers!

Anyone else having an issue with MuseScore crashing when trying to use pizzicato on a contrabass?

Posted in the 'made with MuseScore' forum, but here it is again.
I took the last couple of days to write the last piece in a suite of works dedicated to my family. This one is for the "hero" of the household, my wife.
As has been the experience, writing inside of MuseScore 4 is extremely volatile right now. If I were to file a bug report at this stage (4.0.1) it would read "M4 crashes... when I write music". I actually had to resort to writing and editing in MuseScore 3 while working on this. I know that they will work out all of the MANY bugs that are creating measure corruptions and unstable note/articulation/sample combinations that are causing crashes.
The good news is that the MusicXML export is working and all data transfers cleanly to M3 and then directly back to M4, as a workaround while writing (although a major headache). The render is a mastered copy of the .wav export directly from MuseScore 4 using the Muse Sounds. I am finding that the sample set is improving weekly and the results are absolutely stunning:

https://youtu.be/M_WXyHWA0R8

Will post a play through and breakdown video on this when I get the chance.

Enjoy!

Carl

I can't believe how much of an improvement MuseScore 4 is over v 3. Most obvious are the new Orchestral Sounds. Incredibly good !
I am astounded by the intelligence and hard work in order to make so many amazing improvements. MuseScore 4 with these new great sounds, makes Finale, Dorio, and Sibelius, tremble with jealousy !
Certainly worth donating to help such great development, which is what I 'm going to do.

Thanks a lot,

Dan

That's funny ! I did install the new release 4.02 but it seems that FLAC export is always crashing the app !
Did I miss something ?

Thanks for the v4.0.2.230651553 corruption-handling improvements!

I can't speak for everyone (that's my wife's job, LOL)—but on the rare occasions MS has told me a score was corrupted, it was because an edit I did had caused it to lost track of the beats in the 2nd voice of a staff. I've found that if I open the file (disregarding the warning) and erase and re-enter that bar, the file is OK.

So if you get the "corrupted" message in a score with multiple voices, look for one or more bars with missing rests and try redoing them. ;?)

Musescore 4.0.2 doesn't launch

Congratulations for the new update! A question: the glissando (as portamento) playback for woodwinds and brass removed, or temporarily not working? (Diatonic, chromatic, white & black keys glissando works, but not portamento - portamento works only for strings). In a previous score in MuseScore 4.0.1 a flute portamento-glissando (semitone) is played perfectly, even the file is opened with MuseScore 4.0.2 ! But I do not hear flute (or clarinet, trombone etc) portamento-glissando written in new scores with MuseScore 4.0.2.
I tried to write a portamento type flute glissando inside the score I was written with MuseScore 4.0.1 (but opened in 4.0.2) - the portamento-glissando played perfectly!

The instrument dynamics in Musescore 4 are very bad they have drastic volume changes when they aren't notated to. A mp sounds like pp and the flute part randomly jumps drastically in dynamics from mp (what is notated) to around ff. Does anyone know what this is or how to fix it?

I got around to testing Musescore 4. I have tried it during the beta and I'm still amazed by the work you do. The program would be incredible, if... well, if it was usable. I remember the first time I tried M4 and it had playback issues, dynamic issues and performance issues in general. 3-4 months down the line, two patches released, and as if nothing has changed. The same issues are still in the application.

The playback doesn't play some sounds or it plays them with delay. I thought it might be a problem with Muse Sounds, but it happens with the basic sounds too. If you don't open the mixer, then the playback is just unusable. The program in general has a lot of lag, which makes it hard to use. The dynamics in M4 are just terrible as other commenters have pointed it out, I can't even explain what is happening there because the workings of the dynamics are basically incomprehensible.

I know you have a lot of work to do, but these issues need fixing. I might need to reinstall the program or I don't know, but I don't think it would fix the problems. I hope you get around fixing these problems as soon as possible. Until then I will stick with the M3 version I still have on my computer. Best of luck!

This company, behind musescore, charged twice , total almost $ 200.00 for something I did not sked for and have not refunded the money. SHAME on them

So why does my Musescore 4 keep opening instances of the app each time I open a scores. Musescore 3 opened them in tabs in the same windows. This is nuts. I have 5 scores open in different 5 different instances. My dock has 5 icons of musescore.

Please help.. Its impossible to work like this. :(

Sorry.. I seem to have another problem.. When I play back the score (Crotchet = 80) The first two bars plays at 80 and then it defaults to 120. and what is really weird is the playback Beam that follows the notes during playback seems to go at =80 . Then the entire things would just get stuck .. and the beach ball would make its appearance.

So sad.. :( Is there anyway to downgrade to Musescore 3 please?

In the Hebrew version, the openeing screen is being cut as in the attached photo. I believe that the same thing happens to all right written languages such as Arabic. I don't believe it's important, but it's the look of the software.