Truncate a hairpin
Hello,
I want to truncate a diminuendo hairpin and extend it to a
few measures in the next bar. Is there a possibility to do that?
Joe.
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Hello,
I want to truncate a diminuendo hairpin and extend it to a
few measures in the next bar. Is there a possibility to do that?
Joe.
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does http://musescore.org/en/handbook/edit-mode help?
I can't reconcile "truncate" with "extend". Do you have anyway of illustrating what you want and attaching an image?
In reply to Hairpin by underquark
... that you want the diminuendo (crescendo or slur) to affect. Press Shift-H, (H or S for crescendo or slur) and the marking will usually be placed correctly.
Drag the diminuendo sign up or down if necessary. (Click once and press x to change a diminuendo to a crescendo or to flip the slur up or down).
If the positioning is not quite right, double click the marking to reveal the handles. These can be dragged by mouse or touchpad but you can also move them with the keyboard. Shift-Tab to select a previous handle or Tab to select a later one. In your case, leave the end handle selected. Shift-right arrow will move the end point to the next note, right arrow will move it a small amount, CMD-right arrow (CTRL-right arrow for Windows) will fine tune the position and ALT-right arrow will move the handle very small amounts. For slurs you can also move the handles up or down (especially the intermediate ones) to change the shape of the slur.
You must also use Shift-right arrow to adjust the end point of 1st time (etc.) bar markings because moving the end point with the mouse doesn't change the anchor point, causing repeats to be played inaccurately.
In reply to Hairpin by underquark
Let me explain it using the attached example.
From the mid of measure 3, I want to diminuate from mf to mp. But this happens at the next bar so I have to leave the hairpin ‘open’ at the end of bar 1.
Yes, I can do it the way I now do it with the use of the ‘line’ possibility but this does not
look ‘nice’. Is there a possibility to create a hairpin with an ‘open end’?
That would be nice!
Joe.
In reply to Let me explain it using the by JoeAlders
Like this?
In reply to Like this? by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes!
That is exactly what I want. How can I 'modify' the hairpin into the one you made?
The open end at the right side should also be with a handle to stretch it.
Joe.
In reply to Yes! That is exactly what I by JoeAlders
click on 1st note (the one where the hairpin should start), shift-click last note (the one where it should end, hit h, select harpin, hit x (h-x as a workaround for not having a shortcut for decrescendo), voila!
In reply to click on 1st note (the one by Jojo-Schmitz
Click away from the hairpin to fix it then double click the open hairpin. You will then get the handle at the right hand end. Why do you want to adjust it? It looks fine to me.
In reply to Yes! That is exactly what I by JoeAlders
Or, hit shift-H to place the diminuendo, then double click it and hit shift-right until the end point is where you want it. MuseScore automatically leaves the right edge open if it continues across systems; you don't have to do anything to make it happen.
In reply to Or, hit shift-H to place the by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
That is the way to do it!! Thank you very much.
This should be written in the Handbook because the described situation
often happens on a score!
Joe.
In reply to Marc, That is the way to do by JoeAlders
This is described in the handbook: http://musescore.org/en/handbook/hairpin and http://musescore.org/en/handbook/edit-mode
In reply to This is described in the by Jojo-Schmitz
Yes, it is described in the handbook but from that information you cannot get to the
result I wanted. If you for instance use my simple example given above, the right hand handle
just extends to the border of the score and does not extend to the (start of the) second bar
leaving the hairpin at the end of the first bar 'open ended'.
Joe.
In reply to Yes, it is described in the by JoeAlders
I don't understand. The instructions in the handbook are exactly what I described to you - enter the hairpin, then go to edit mode and use shift-right-arrow to extent it. Nothing I said there is any different from what is in the handbook as far as I can see. Their example does't specifically show the case where you are extending the hairpin so far that it goes off the end of the system,but nothing whatsoever changes - just keep hitting shift-right until you reach the desire endpoint, just as the handbook describes.
In reply to I don't understand. The by Marc Sabatella
Marc,
After close reading of the passage concerning hairpins, I discovered a not unimportant
difference between the expression ‘anchor point’ and ‘end point’!
The moving of the ‘anchor point (shift + >) results in the desired ‘open ended’ dim. hairpin.
The moving of the ‘endpoint’ does not.
I completely overlooked the difference and have always used the ‘endpoint’ way to move the end of the dim. hairpin.
One is never too old to learn!
Joe.
In reply to Marc, After close reading of by JoeAlders
That was my intention in my very first reply...
In reply to That was my intention in my by Jojo-Schmitz
Sorry Jojo,
Mea culpa!
Joe.
In reply to Sorry Jojo, Mea culpa! Joe. by JoeAlders
Guess it was my fault too, for being overly brief ;-)