Remove "Pause" property from Inspector for breath mark or make it 'stealing' time from preceeding duration

• Jun 8, 2016 - 22:47
S4 - Minor

Post-#100856: Show pause property for breath and casesura, the pause property is now also shown for breath marks, which it definitely should not be (imagine a musician losing the downbeat after a breath).

See also Marc Sabatella's comment at


Well, I don't necessarily mind them having the property, as long as it defaults to zero. Or is implemented like an articulation, slightly shortening the preceding note.

Title Breath marks should not have pause property Breath marks' pause property

I'd like the latter a lot. But having the pause property available the same as for caesuras (default to zero or not), it looks too much like it does shorten the preceding note when it does something quite the else.

I also vote for keeping the possibility of using the 'breathe mark' as a caesura, since I've seen it being used that way, and depending on the situation, e.g. for a singer, stealing from the previous note might not give sufficient time to breathe.

Providing the 'steal from preceding note' would of course be nice, and I actually like Jojo's idea with negative numbers. But I'm not sure if this might seem unintuitive to some users. Maybe it would be clearer to have a separate property for it.

I thought of the negative value too after posting, and I do think it's a good idea. I wouldn't worry too much about intuitiveness here since the majority of the time the defaults should be good, and seeing a negative value in that field by default will show the user that this is how to do it.

It's probably not too hard to implement but tricky because it is entirely different than the current implementation. Right now the effect is on the tempo map but the new proposed effect for negative values will be on note event lengths. Totally separate areas is code involved. Not sure that's a good enough reason you use a separate property instead of positive/negative but something to think about.

Title Breath marks' pause property Remove "Pause" property from Inspector for breath mark
Reported version 3.0 2.2