Staccato dots placed too high above/below stems - make a style setting

• Jan 2, 2019 - 22:46
Reported version
P2 - Medium
S4 - Minor

Staccato articulations are not located or displayed properly in a 2-voice measure. See attached scorelet example: articulation+voices_issue.mscz

Per @mike320: "It seems the staccato marks are being placed in relationship to the head rather than the beam, which is wrong. This becomes obvious if you move the middle notes an octave toward the beams in the second measure of your attached score."

OS: macOS 10.14, Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit):, revision: c1a5e4c

Steps to repro:
1. Enter some beamed eighth notes
2. Switch to voice 2
3. Enter more beamed eighth notes
4. Select the whole measure
5. Shift-s

I get this (the rests are insignificant):
Screen Shot 2019-01-02 at 2.35.42 PM.png

I expect something like this (same measure, but in 4/4--the above is in 12/8 because local time signatures don't work well in musescore, which is a separate issue):
Screen Shot 2019-01-02 at 2.32.07 PM.png


Note that if the notes are staccato prior to adding the second voice, they are correct until the second voice is added (i.e., the same incorrect result is obtained regardless of when the articulation is applied).

Frequency Many Few

I suggested this be made critical because it's a basic primary function in music notation. Frequency is few because there are now 2 of us reporting this.

Title articulations are incorrectly placed in multi-voice measure. Staccato dots placed too high above/below notebeams
Status needs info active
Workaround No Yes

OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit):, revision: cc654b1

See attached score for examples. The problem is that staccato dots are being applied too far above or below the notebeams. The distance seems OK when applied above/below noteheads. Workaround is to adjust manually.

This also affects other symbols: see #283456: Mordents, Trills etc.: default Anchor setting (i.e. "Above Staff") too high above staff.

Attachment Size
staccato_above_beam.mscz 4.95 KB
Priority P0 - Critical P2 - Medium
Severity S2 - Critical S4 - Minor

Well, that's a much more subtle difference than shown in the original, not really the same thing at all. I measured the distance from the dot to the beam as compared to from the dot to the stem of the unbeamed note and it's virtually identical, so I don't think beams are even involved here - it seems you are just wanting dots closer to stems. Gould recommends about 0.5 sp, looks like we are more like around 0.8 sp (it's actually 1 sp measured to the center of the dot, I think).

Probably this should be a style setting, with the default slightly less than current. We have a few of these, but we don't use them consistently, and this specific case is hard-coded.

Title Staccato dots placed too high above/below notebeams Staccato dots placed too high above/below stems - make a style setting
Type Graphical (UI) Functional