Standard Notation For Guitar String Bends
Hi guys,
I just downloaded MuseScore 2.0 last night because I saw that it allowed you to write guitar string bends. Unfortunately, I happen to be the pianist in my band and I know very little about guitar tabulature. Consequently, I would love to be able to write string bends in regular notation.
I know how they should be indicated (Google helps), but I do not know how to get MuseScore to write them into standard notation. I was intrigued by the option in Master Palette that is a full bend. However, the software won't let me place it on standard music notation.
So, if anyone know how to create string bends in standard music notation using MuseScore 2.0, I would appreciate them sharing the knowledge. Thank you.
Respectfully,
Cameron
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Welcome Cameron, take a look at this conversation:
https://musescore.org/en/node/22847#comment-87011
In reply to Welcome Cameron, take a look by Shoichi
Thanks for the reply, Shoichi, but that does not really help me. As I said, I am clueless when it comes to guitar tab. I would prefer to keep it in standard music notation. Most I can see right now is that I got a lot of copy and paste work to move back and forth between standard music notation and guitar tab.
In reply to Thanks for the reply, by AtkinsonCameron
No need for copy & paste if you want a standard and tab staff - that's what linked staves are for. Everything you add in the standard staff automatically gets converted to tab and vice versa.
I don't think there is a way to get the tab bend symbols to appear in a standard staff. I was under the impression that symbols was only used in tab, though.
In reply to No need for copy & paste if by Marc Sabatella
I confirm: no way to get a bend symbol in a standard staff.
Especially since there is evidence that it can be used in some editions. See this thread and attached image. https://musescore.org/en/node/29716
A feature request should have been filed.
In reply to I confirm: no way to get a by cadiz1
LOL, I am a pianist. I thought they had the feature and I just didn't know how to do it. Obviously, guitarists are content with tabs. :P
Thx for the replies, guys.
In reply to LOL, I am a pianist. I by AtkinsonCameron
"Obviously, guitarists are content with tabs." : could you develop this sentence please, I don't understand.
In reply to "Obviously, guitarists are by cadiz1
I meant that guitarists who use MuseScore are content to use tabulature instead of standard music notation. I find it funny that it took a pianist to notice this. :P
In reply to I meant that guitarists who by AtkinsonCameron
That's what I thought. It is a belief, totally free, at least for certain styles of music. Pianists uses standard notation, and guitar players, under the fallacious pretext that they can not not read music, uses the Tab...
Beliefs and stereotypes die hard ... I leave you responsible for your comments.
In reply to That's what I thought. It is by cadiz1
LOL, no offense to guitarists meant. I play with a very good guitarist who can sight read standard notation just as well as I can. All I am saying is that I am a little frustrated that the program doesn't allow composers to write bends for guitar in standard notation.
In reply to That's what I thought. It is by cadiz1
LOL, no offense to guitarists meant. I play with a very good guitarist who can sight read standard notation just as well as I can. All I am saying is that I am a little frustrated that the program doesn't allow composers to write bends for guitar in standard notation.
In reply to LOL, no offense to guitarists by AtkinsonCameron
Ah; so: misunderstanding probably. And of course, I agree with that: "All I am saying is that I am a little frustrated that the program doesn't allow composers to write bends for guitar in standard notation."
I go file soon a feature request for that.
In reply to I meant that guitarists who by AtkinsonCameron
Actually, I - a pianist as well - have noticed and pointed this out before as well, and no guitar players stepped up to agree it was a problem. Which is what led me to the assumption that this particular symbol is not normally used in standard notation. I just figured that when using standard notation, maybe might prefer to use standard (not guitar-specific) bends symbols like the ones on the Arpeggios & Glissandi palette.
Meanwhile, as a workaround, you could create one on a tab staff then use Image Capture mode to make a high resolution screen shot of it, then paste it as a graphic. Or look to see if there are any useful sails in the Symbols palette ("Z").
This is now fixed and working in the nightly builds and should be in the next official update as well.
In reply to This is now fixed and working by Marc Sabatella
How do i get the standard notation to look like the 2nd bar and not the first. (see attached image) the way i did it was with 2 lines. but it becomes a difficult and frustrating process for every bend.. I teach Guitar and i do not use Tab at all. i have not used it for 10 years now. so standard notation with bends looks better like this https://musescore.org/sites/musescore.org/files/guitar_bends.PNG in my opinion.
is there an easier way to what i am doing??
Thanks.
In reply to How do i get the standard by Bradley Mavin
As you see, it is now possible to apply bends on a standard staff.
What I see in the first measure of your attached file is not the academic or usual way to input these bends.
It's like entering two times the same thing by adding a full bend on the grace note.
A full bend corresponds to a tone. So if you notice a D, the fact of adding a full bend indicates the arrival note to the performer, ie the E (I probably learn nothing to you!) :)
I probably understand your approach, seeking a visual aspect as in the other attached document (with curved lines in the standard staff). In my thoughts, this way is not the most usual - it should be checked -, and would be somehow an editorial style of some publishing houses (Hal Leonard, Mel Bay, or other)? I regret having left all my electric guitar methods in my school music!
Anyway, we can approach this result (third, at the right on the attached file). I have not found a suitable symbol (only inverted) in special characters (F2), and it is quite time consuming if you do this systematically.
![bend.jpg]( "bend.jpg")
In reply to As you see, it is now by cadiz1
I only want the 2nd bar in my example not the 1st. So i gather there is no other way to do it at this stage.
![Standard_notation_bend.png]( "Standard_notation_bend.png")
In reply to I only want the 2nd bar in my by Bradley Mavin
You csn create more or less that exact look using the Tremolo Bar marking, which works more or less the same way as the other bend notation but created angled lines like that. It's the last ntoation in the Articulations palette.
In reply to You csn create more or less by Marc Sabatella
I'll have a look at that Marc, thanks for the tip.
In reply to As you see, it is now by cadiz1
Just a doubt: Isn't expected that these symbols were on the Arpeggios & Glissandi palette? ??? I found it on the Accidentals palette.
Maybe it should be on both? ???
In reply to Just a doubt: Isn't expected by jotape1960
They are not on Accidentals, they are on Articulations & Ornaments, is indeed what they are. They are neither arpeggios nor glissandi, although they can sound a little like glissandi in some situations I guess. They can be grey area between these palettes I guess, but I don't think it hekps to duplicate symbols - it just makes palettes bigger and harder to find things on.
This is an older thread, but I'm not finding the string bend in MuseScore. Any help is appreciated.
In reply to This is an older thread, but… by Paul Breaux
Sorry, just came across a full bend under Atriculations. Is there a 1/2 bend?
In reply to Sorry, just came across a… by Paul Breaux
In the Inspector, lower the bend's horizontal line by half.
See the image here:
https://musescore.org/en/handbook/3/bends#bend-shape-width
In reply to In the Inspector, make the… by Jm6stringer
This is awesome. Thank you.
On notation staves, guitar bends are notated using an angled line between the noteheads at the start and end. On tablature, guitar bends are notated using an upwards-pointing curved line with an arrowhead at the top, with text or a number/fraction above the arrowhead to indicate the bend interval. https://myfiosgateway.one/
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