provide separate volume and pan controller for the voice of a stave
Reported version
3.0
Priority
P2 - Medium
Type
Functional
Frequency
Few
Severity
S5 - Suggestion
Status
active
Regression
No
Workaround
Yes
Project
in choir scores often 2 (or more) voices reside in a common stave. It would be great to allow separate volume and pan controls for the voices. Actually it is only possible to disable a voice completely in playback.
The practical benefit of this is following: in order to allow the members of a voice to train their voice, I provide playbacks where their voice is louder than the others. In V2 this forced me to create a separate score where the different voices are in different staves (so I have to maintain 2 scores for the same song). V3 would be perfect to solve the problem if it would provide separate controllers for the voices.
Comments
See also #58031: Dynamics/hairpin range for Voice
Or use the attached template and it's channels, which is what I use for exactly the same purpose as you intend, biggest advantage: works in 2.x already ;-)
In reply to See also #58031: Dynamics… by Jojo-Schmitz
Oh, what a surprise.
How was it created? Can I re-arrange my scores with separate staves in some way to get the same result?
I manually edited the mscx inside the mscz to add those channels, and yes, you could do the same changes to your existing scores.
Olala...
Is there a chance to create a plug-in from what you have done?
Nope, plugings can't do that. Exctact the mscx from the mscz either by opening in MuseScore and sava as mszx or by using e.g. 7Zip. Open the mscx with some plain text editor, like vi or Notepad++
Locate the term
Channel
and replacewith
resp.
Then add staff text to either staff and via right-click/stafftext properties assign voices to these channels
In reply to Nope, plugings can't do that by Jojo-Schmitz
Is it possible to do it using a modified instruments.xml file? If so can you explain how to make it work?
In reply to Is it possible to do it… by mike320
Yes it is, see above and apply this to the Men and Women 'instrument'
this is really great - and much more what I expected with my initial proposual!
Is there a chance to apply this as feature to V3?
It indeed might. I have a PR that adds more channels to several instruments (https://github.com/musescore/MuseScore/pull/3500), this here should/could be part of it.
Problem still to solve: in Mixer show only the channels that are actually used, in order to not clutter up the mixer dialog.
At least for the 'Instruments' "Men" and "Women" and the Closed Score SATB templates this issue is solved meanwhile, by providing channels, as shown above
see also #278836: Allow for muting voices in mixer and #278881: Restore buttons for muting individual voices within a staff
I just tested this feature with version 3.0: unfortunately the splitted voices don't appear in the Mixer. So scores that are split according to the proposal above, lose this feature when opened in V3.
? You mean Men/Women/Closed Score SATB? These certainly work for me, in Beta
And for 2.x scores that used the above 'tricks' work in 3.0 too (and ever did)
It is not by voice though, but by channel, and it is up to the user to assign voices to channels via a stafftext and the staff text properties
I just tested the score "04-SATB_Close_Score" that I got from you: when opening the mixer in V3, I only see 2 mixer channels, not 4 as in V2.
MuseScore revision is:
OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.0.0.4182, revision: 3e4ea9b
Where in 2.x do you see voices in the mixer?
The have been earlier 3.0 developer builds that had that, but never 2.x
Do you mean that template from furter up? Opening that with 3.0 shows 2 instruments with 2 channels each, just like it should, and just like it does in 2.x (with a different UI though
This is what I get in V2.3.2 when I open the "closed score". In V3 I only get 2 mixer channels
And this is what I get in 3.0:
After pressing on these arrows...
The big change in the new mixer is that channels by default are not shown, so don't add clutter
Ahhh - I did not see these arrows... Works as expected!
PSA: it's not only the channel switch that jojo did in his file, he also added a Staff text (CTRL+T) and changed the properties to distribute the voices to the channels.
Indeed, those staff texts are responsible for that channel switch. And they are available in the text palette (of the advanced workspace)