How do I create harp placing brackets?
Greetings.
Placing brackets tell a harpist where to put their fingers so as to play the next two to four notes. It looks like a "[" bracket, rotated 90 degrees, over (or under) the notes, with fingerings attached. I get the impression that they are primarily used by beginners.
Here is a blog article with music to practice that talks about the brackets:
http://www.celticharper.com/harpblog/?p=7
Here are a couple of sheet music snippets showing the brackets.
http://www.folkharp.com/files/7927B_1.jpg
http://www.folkharp.com/files/93545_6_0.jpg
Can I make them in MuseScore, and if so, how?
Thanks!
Comments
Use a single line of the palette "Lines".
Click on the line and in the "Line properties"" check "hook" at the beginning and the end. The positive value adjust the length of the hook downwards and negative upwards..
To orient line double click it "handles" appear and can be moved with the up and down keys ( only = 1 space, + Ctrl = 1/10 space or + Alt = 1/100 space ( this is valid for all the elements you want to move )) . You can also move the "handles" with the mouse.
In reply to Use a single line of the by Miré
Fabulous! Works like a charm.
Thank you,
Clinton
In reply to Wonderful :-) by Armagon
Hi, this trick doesn't seem to work with musescore 2.0. Any clues as to how we can make fingering brackets on 2.0?
In reply to Hi, this trick doesn't seem by harperkaoru
It should work in a similar fashion. Can you explain where you are blocked?
In reply to Hi, this trick doesn't seem by harperkaoru
You can do it with the 2.0 of course.
So:
![Line1.jpg]( "Line1.jpg")
![Line2.jpg]( "Line2.jpg")
![Line3.jpg]( "Line3.jpg")
![Line4.jpg]( "Line4.jpg")
![result.jpg]( "result.jpg")
1) Add the simple line (Lines palette)
2) Right-click -> Line properties
3) Tick "Hook" twice "Begin" and "End", with the values you wish, 0.50 sp, or 1.00 etc.-> Ok
First result:
4) Now, in Inspector: Tick "Allow diagonal"
5) For edition, double-tick on the line for the placement you prefer with the handles
Final result:
Of course, it's recommanded then to place this new line in the palette for reuse.
EDIT: and if you want the inverse result for the hooks: choose in Line properties negative values for these hooks: -0,50 sp or -1.00 sp and so on.
![inverse.jpg]( "inverse.jpg")
In reply to You can do it with the 2.0 of by cadiz1
Wow, thank you for such a quick response! I was having trouble looking for "line properties". Thanks to your explanation now my music has harp fingerings!
In reply to You can do it with the 2.0 of by cadiz1
Hi! I'm using MuseScore 3, and as soon as I shift the line diagonally the hooks are messed up or missing entirely.
![Bracket 1.jpg]( "Bracket 1.jpg")
![Bracket 2.jpg]( "Bracket 2.jpg")
Before...
After just moving the right handle up...
Any guidance would be greatly appreciated!
In reply to Hi! I'm using MuseScore 3,… by blairsf65
Hmm, I just tried and found the same. Looks like a bug involving hooks on diagonal lines. Can you submit an official bug report using the Issue Tracker (see Support menu above, or Help / Report a Bug from within MuseScore)? Set "Severity" to "Major". Include a sample score.
In reply to Hmm, I just tried and found… by Marc Sabatella
See #284461: Line Issue - Hooks on diagonal lines are skewed
In reply to Use a single line of the by Miré
I do this with MuseScore 2 but can't find a way in MuseScore 3. I get the line onto the music, then right click on it and the menu does not have a Line Properties choice. It only has Edit Element which has no chance to add hooks. Ideas? Thanks!
In reply to I do this with MuseScore 2… by smilingharp@gm…
In MuseScore 3 this is now also found in the Inspector.
In reply to In MuseScore 3 this is now… by jeetee
Thank you! I did put the hooks on. then when I went to change the position (they can't be horizontal, they have to be at a tilt over the notes corresponding to the notes going downwards or upwards), the hooks disappeared and a long line appeared on the line.
In reply to Thank you! I did put the… by smilingharp@gm…
This is what harp fingering brackets look like
In reply to In MuseScore 3 this is now… by jeetee
oops to be clearer than the last email, the entire harp "finger placing" bracket is what has to tilt, not the hooks themselves.
In reply to oops to be clearer than the… by smilingharp@gm…
It's not clear if that means you've figured it out or not. If not, please attach your score so we can understand and assist better.
In reply to It's not clear if that means… by Marc Sabatella
This is what happens when I try to tilt it - hooks disappear and a long line appears going up at an angle.
In reply to This is what happens when I… by smilingharp@gm…
I'm guessing you aren't using 3.1, then, since the bug mentioned above was fixed already. If you still see this in 3.1, please attach your actual score, not just a picture, so we can see what is actually going on.
In reply to I'm guessing you aren't… by Marc Sabatella
HI Marc,
SUCCESS! After I upgraded to 3.1 it works! Fabulous.
Next question: I am trying to change the font for the tempo marks. I go to format>style>text style>tempo. I choose my text style and press ok. It does not change. I go back to change it and it says the name of the style I chose but that is still not the font actually on my page. Pointers?
In reply to HI Marc, SUCCESS! After I… by smilingharp@gm…
Again, it's really hard to help from just a picture - we really need the actual score. My guess though is that you previously applied custom formatting to this tempo element, telling MuseScore not to honor the text style.
In reply to Again, it's really hard to… by Marc Sabatella
Here you go - thanks this is such a great service! I tell everyone about MuseScore.
In reply to Here you go - thanks this is… by smilingharp@gm…
Yes, as I said, there is custom formatting applied - looks like at some point you forced it to be FreeSerif using the text toolbar. Just select your tempo texts and click the Remove Custom Formatting button in the Inspector to make them respond to the style defaults again.
In reply to Yes, as I said, there is… by Marc Sabatella
That worked!
One more question - I want to change the number of measures per line. Sometimes not the same number of measures from one line to the next. Ideas?
In reply to That worked! One more… by smilingharp@gm…
Press Return when you have something in the last measure you want on a line selected.
In reply to Press Return when you have… by mike320
I do but then it puts the next measure on a line all by itself- stretched out huge
In reply to I do but then it puts the… by smilingharp@gm…
Only if there is also a line break on that measure - just delete it if so.
In reply to Only if there is also a line… by Marc Sabatella
I couldn't figure out what a line break is, or how to delete one.
In reply to Only if there is also a line… by Marc Sabatella
I figured it out. Success! Awesome!
In reply to I figured it out. Success! … by smilingharp@gm…
pressing return toggles line breaks.
How can you do this on version 3? I can't find the regular horizontal line. Thank you so much!
In reply to How can you do this on… by fischarperjr
It's on the Lines palette. If you don't see it, be sure you are in the Advanced workspace instead of the default Basic (see control at top right).
In reply to It's on the Lines palette. … by Marc Sabatella
thank you so much!
I am using Musescore 4.2.1.xxxx and I cannot find any way to add hooks to lines. I have followed these instructions as well as others and I don't see any hooks on the "Line Properties" page. Has anyone determined how this works in Musescore 4.2.1.xxxx?
In reply to I am using Musescore 4.2.1… by karlakarndt
Just select the line and look in the appearance tab and you should see this: