"Insert" input mode: inability to enter tuplets

• Aug 11, 2019 - 06:08
Reported version
3.2
Priority
P1 - High
Type
Functional
Frequency
Once
Severity
S3 - Major
Reproducibility
Always
Status
active
Regression
No
Workaround
Yes
Project

OS: Windows 10 (10.0), Arch.: x86_64, MuseScore version (64-bit): 3.2.3.7635, revision: d2d863f

As summarized in the title, see below.

(And if it is a known limitation (?), major limitation, in this input mode, it is not documented as such, as far as I know)

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Comments

Workaround No Yes
Priority P2 - Medium

FWIW, rests too, that's probably a bigger limitation but also easier to fix.

Either way, the workaround is to first add a regular note, then convert it to a rest (with Delete) or tuplet (with Ctrl+3) as desired. So really, it's only one extra click either way.

"the workaround is to first add a regular note, then convert it to a rest (with Delete) or tuplet (with Ctrl+3) as desired"

Not sure I understand. If you stay strictly in Insert mode, the tuplet figure is created (as you can see on the animation), but it cannot be filled in - computer keyboard or mouse. And so I would be curious to see how you manage this (with another animation if possible, thanks)

Priority P2 - Medium P1 - High

OK, I see what you mean, once you've created the tuplet from the first note using my method, you cannot actually enter notes into it. The workaround I can offer now is to press "R" to copy the first note to the second & third:

1) press 5 C to enter a C
2) press Left Ctrl+3 to convert the C into a triplet
2) press R twice to copy the C to the second and third notes

Well, is it really reasonable to call this mode Insert input mode, when it is not possible to enter tuplets (except for a complicated workaround solution, which the average user will not be able to do, and which is not mentioned anywhere).

And above all, this sequence is limited for get tuplets containing the same notes, eg CCC, while you cannot receive tuplets with different notes eg CDE, or others.

So, IMHO, this cannot be called a workaround, which is itself very limited to a few tuplets (containing the same notes).

I had other ideas, but they involve returning temporarily to "N" mode, or, without exit an input mode: "Rhythm" mode, or even via the virtual keyboard "P". Anyway, this forces you to return then to the "Insert" "mode" (I feel obliged to put this mode term in quotation marks now!)

With the shortcut to return to Insert, it's not that difficult, but it's something incomprehensible to have to switch from one entry mode to another to access the input of the basic things (and I hadn't seen for the rests indeed)

So, this "Insert" "mode" has decreased a lot in my esteem! It's more a draft of an input mode than anything else.

Indeed, it's got limitations. To me it's easier to stay in normal steptime note input mode but use Cltr+Shift+letter to insert notes indivually. Same basic function, but more flexible.

But with my workaround of pressing "R", I assumed you'd then use the arrow keys to change pitch, like with grace notes.