E flat tuba is needed

Hi Oliver

I believe it's already included for the next version. You may try in a [[nodetitle:nightly build]] .

If you can confirm this, please post.

Here is the correct link to the nightly builds: http://musescore.org/en/download#nightly

E♭ Tuba is in for the next version with all its family. Feel free to test a nightly and check if the range of the instrument and transposition are right.

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I am reopening this discussion because low brass could be handled better

Tubas come in 4 keys Eb, F, C & Bb. All of them play in concert pitch in Bass Clef so a generic Tuba part in BC makes sense.

In British style Brass Bands Eb & Bb tubas play in treble clef and these DO transpose. Eb tuba is like alto sax transposition, Bb tuba is like Bb trumpet transposition.

If we could add an 'Eb tuba TC', 'Bb tuba TC' and a generic 'Tuba BC' that would be great.

The euphonium & baritone horn also need treble clef versions that are transposed like Bb Trumpet.
'euphonium TC' 'baritone horn TC'

Trombone needs a transposed treble clef like a Bb trumpet (and may be a non transposed version - rare use)
'trombone TC (trans)' ' trombone TC (concert pitch)'

Eb alto horn is called Tenor Horn through out most of the world as the correct name for Brass Bands
'tenor horn (Eb alto horn)'

Thanks for all your fantastic work.

1/ In MuseScore nightly, there is by default one tuba in common instrument, named "Tuba". The description mentions it's a Eb Tuba. Is Eb Tuba the most common Tuba? It seems to be the case only in UK orchestras. Maybe we shouldn't list the default tuba in the common instruments but the 4 tubas explicitely. If we list the default tuba only, maybe we shouldn't mention the tonality?

2/ In orchestra setting, the Bb tuba and the euphonium are written as a non transposing instrument, in C. MuseScore nightly lists them exactly like that. But in some countries, they are considered as transposing instruments. Over the years, we got several requests about this issue.
http://musescore.org/en/node/8162
http://musescore.org/fr/node/25649
http://musescore.org/fr/node/20509
http://musescore.org/fr/node/8820
etc...

We typically answer that everything can be changed in the staff properties, or that another instrument can be used and then the sound changed in the mixer.

I would be ok to add some tubas in instruments.xml with different transposition/clef. I know how instruments.xml works but I know nothing about tubas...

It seems to me that the best way of handling that is via templates.

If you remember I suggested way back that selecting a template as the default would be an improvement in useability for new users, with the option to create from scratch still there but not as the default.

This enables us to use the instrument list for actual instruments rather than creating unnecessary duplication, and using the template system to drive different clef needs.

As far as I'm aware there are only 2 use cases for tubas - UK Brass Band and Orchestral. I am not sure how Concert band scores treat tubas, however.

In concert band scores there are various local notations.
Based on what I have seen for our concert band, the most used for tuba is non-transposing instrument, bass clef.
However, some old players with Eb tuba read as Eb transposing instrument in treble clef (one octave difference).
We have a pair of French scores in which tuba is written as a transposing Bb instrument in bass clef (source of huge confusion for our players!).
In commercially available scores also Bb trasposing in treble clef and Eb trasposing in bass clef are available (or available on demand).
I can also add that something similar also happens for (tenor) trombone and baritone horn: the usual notation is non-transposing instrument in bass clef, but old players often read Bb trasposing in treble clef (one octave difference).

Fixed in 2.0

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