MuseScore 4 is OUT NOW!

Not all older features have yet been consolidated into MS4.0 (or the wait would've been even longer). See https://musescore.org/en/node/334701 for a listing of them.

Congrats! When can we have the function that make the announcement translatable?

this is so cool the horizontal spacing changes make musescore look so professional!

I have been trying the nightly builds now and then, so now I wonder if I can install MS4 and still keep MS3 functioning?

This is amazing!!! Thank you MuseScore team!

I am incredibly thrilled that MuseScore 4 has been officially released! I've been following development of it everyday since October 2021 so it's nice to see it finally come out now. Anyways, I just downloaded the new Muse Hub and I keep having this issue... which I find weird since it always worked previously (I have had it installed since the Beta), I've also tried re-installing it to no avail. All of the sections don't work, plus it keeps throwing me an error that "Muse Hub helper service is not running" and when I click on Connect, nothing happens. Is anybody else getting this too?

Have installed and it opens fine but I can't see my MuseScore 3 files even when I navigate to the correct directory. Anyone else having that problem? Using Windows 10.

Congrats!

I have a little question! will Muse Sounds ever be available whithout the Muse Hub?
I am currently stuck in MacOS 10.14.6 as my laptop is very very old and I have no money to buy a new one.

Just downloaded MS4 and all the Muse Sounds to go with it. Just curious, though: what directory did the Muse Sounds get put into? I've looked about and can't see where Muse Hub put them...

Olá, estou tendo um problema em relação a otimização, existe um pequeno delay na hora de escrever qualquer melodia, não sei o que aconteceu com o desempenho, baixei primeiramente pelo "Muse Hub" e depois sem ele, e ambos está do mesmo jeito, travando na hora de escrever. Poderia me ajudar?

For those having issues running the Muse HUB, if you are running on Linux you may need to run the Helper Server Service manually [ sudo ./Muse.Service ]

Will the Windows Store version of MuseScore be updated to version 4?

Does it mean that bugs must again be registered here as opposed to github?

Hello, I'm an user of musescore, but my musescore 4 doesn't work at all. My musescore application just turn off after it showed its starting logo screen. Is there any need for using this app? I'll be so pleased if someone help solve this problem...

Is it necessary to uninstall Musescore 3 before installing Musescore 4 (on Windows 10)?

Congrats, the sound is a great leap forward. I loaded some bigband arrangements and listened to the enhanced output quality. I think some tweaks are necessary from time to time when comming from version 3. Sometimes I'd like a voice beeing louder without the change of tone quality or dynamic markers for a while. That works well in the mixer. Is there any means to save such an information with the source file for a limited number of bars only?

Where did "swing" go?

awesome software, good job guys

1 remark for now: I tried to save a template, it saved it in the correct name in the template folder, and then when opening it in MuseScore as a template in the new score menu, it shows as untitled. when I open the untitled option as template it opens with all the selected instruments but it keeps showing me underneath the mixer loading audio samples, and it never shows any of the instruments on the mixer but the master bus

Thank you so much for this! I have been waiting for a long time for this release! (I started on MuseScore 3.5 and went on through MuseScore 3.6 and 3.6.2 and now finally MuseScore 4!)

Great job! Very slick! Wondering if the old Albums feature is implemented and, if not, what the workaround is.

I want to Download it for my 32-bit Win7 PC, but it's redirecting me to GitHub.
Help.

Can't open it... Splash screen shows up and disapears. As you can see from the screenshot, it opens and closes instantly.

Edit: I downloaded the standalone version without MuseHub

Honestly I prefer musescore 3 over this. While it looks nicer, the way the instruments sound is just straight up ugly

This is awesome! The interface looks really beautiful now, and things are so much easier to find. I have a couple of things I wanted to ask about:
1. On Windows 11, opening the "Styles" menu causes MuseScore to crash. Is this a known bug?
2. Are the new version of Leland and Leland Text available for download individually?

Thanks for a great piece of software, Tantacrul and the team!

Wondering if I'm the only one who finds it incredibly frustrating that Muse Hub doesn't appear on the taskbar, disappears when I go to another window requiring me to completely reopen it, has activation on startup enabled by default, and doesn't appear to have a way to quit without going to the side tray on my taskbar. Am I encountering bugs here, or is this joining the league of applications that insist on using my computer's power whether I want them to or not?

Otherwise, an incredibly beautiful and usable application so far.

My thanks to everyone who has worked in this project.

Is there going to be support for the iPad for this update? I’d love to be able to notate on my iPad, and I know it’s possible thanks to other notation apps, but I would honestly prefer MuseScore. Is there any word on whether we’ll be able to notate on iPads?

Where is the tuning function that used to be under Inspector? I do a lot of microtonal stuff. If I can't adjust the tunings, it's a deal breaker.

I downloaded for Linux. Installed the Hub and downloaded the sound sets. Everything works great and the sound playback is integrated amazingly well to the notation. 2 Questions:
1. Are the audio plugins not yet available for Linux in the Hub?
2. I can't seem to find the midi timecode output for Musescore 4. Please don't tell me that a setting for this feature has been removed! MTC output allowed Musescore versions in the past to utilize scoring to picture through a slave video player. This is a very basic feature on the proprietary software options and would exclude me from using the new version. Simple... just access to the midi timecode out socket in any format (Jack, Alsa... anything).

Any insight into these inquiries would be much appreciated!

Just wanted to say that even if you suggest 16GB ram for Linux, it just works great on my Chromebook with 8GB ram, amazing considering Crostini is a virtualized enviroment. I even managed to install sounds, but for large wind band scores, it's better use good old soundfonts, as I cannot ask too much to my Chromebook!
No issue at all with my Desktop Debian machine with 32GB and super duper Xeon CPU.

Awesome update! Thank you for the hard work. However, very disappointing to see that MIDI real-time capture is not in yet! One of the main reason I am not using MuseScore full-time is the luck of real-time MIDI capture. Hopefully, this will be included soon!

Hi! I've just switched to MuseScore 4, as I was really excited for the new sound engine, MuseSounds, and there is a score I'm using with the contrabass that has a high Ab (Ab octave 3 on a piano) harmonic/note but isn't being played, is this the range of the contrabass, and if so would there be any future updates that would increase the range further (or am I being dumb and there's something I'm missing)? The specific measure using the Ab is attached.

Thank you very much

Hope the Apple Silicon native support come out soon.

Recently joined the #boycottavid club...best Xmas ever!

Can i install sound fonts (sf2 files) for museScor 4?

Downloading the Mac version of 4.0 - the HUB says "doing some internet stuff" Loading.
Now 25 minutes - Should I abort and try again?

Does one simply move all files from ~/Documents/MuseScore3/ to ~/Documents/MuseScore4/?

$ ls ~/Documents/MuseScore3/ ~/Documents/MuseScore4/
/home/.../Documents/MuseScore3/:
Extensions  Images  Plugins  Scores  SoundFonts  Styles  Templates

/home/.../Documents/MuseScore4/:
'Cloud Scores'   Plugins   Scores   SoundFonts   Styles   Templates

I've been using MuseScore on Linux (currently Linux Mint 20.3) for several years. I just finished watching Marc's 14 hour long course on MuseScore earlier today (excellent course, btw) and installed 4.0.0 right after I finished watching the course. I was a little disappointed that some of the old features are not yet functional in version 4. I will probably continue using 3.6 until some of the missing features are implemented and more of the bugs are discovered/fixed.

I ran into a few problems.

I have a wide monitor and a 4K monitor that have different DPI. The 4K monitor is about 166 DPI and menu fonts are way too small. I got around that problem by starting the AppImage with the command line:

   QT_SCALE_FACTOR=1.5 /home/talent/Applications/MuseScore-4.0.0-x86_64.AppImage

Since I started on the command line, I see a lot of INFO, WARN, and ERROR messages sent to the console. Should I be concerned about any of those messages?

I had one issue of the close dialog box popping up transparent so there was no way to see any of the buttons. I guessed where the close box was and tried again and it was correctly rendered.

I opened a midi file using drag-and-drop and it seemed to work fine except there was no window to adjust the import settings, e.g., quantization. Is there a different way to show that window during import?

Muse Hub fails in various ways at various times. I'm on Pop! OS Linux 22.04 LTS. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling, and also starting the service manually before starting the client.

Sometimes the service drives the fans into a state of madness. Sometimes the service starts on a reboot. Sometimes it doesn't. Sometimes starting the client from the command line just immediately returns the Bash prompt.

Typically, it just says it cannot connect to the internet.

Muse Hub is having trouble connecting. Please check your internet
connection and ensure any firewall you have is set correctly.

I see in the console log that it wants to reach out to https://muse-webservice.azurewebsites.net/graphql

If I open that URL from the browser, it's fine.

I've been trying to get the musescore app to download from the hub and it is not working at all. It sucks.

I don't have enough space on my C: drive. How do I install MuseScore 4 to my D: drive? I can't find any settings for the App to change the install location.

So. I'm looking at the MuseScore 4 manual:

$ MuseScore-4.0.0-x86_64.AppImage man

and wondering if I can do a mass in-place conversion from 3.6 to 4.0 with something like:

$ cat > migrate.json 
[ { "in": "file-1.mscz", "out": "file-1.mscz" },
  { "in": "file-2.mscz", "out": "file-2.mscz" },
...
  { "in": "file-N.mscz", "out": "file-N.mscz" }]
^D
$ MuseScore-4.0.0-x86_64.AppImage -j migrate.json

or, barring that, not in place by specifying the 3.6 and 4.0 directories explicitly:

$ cat > migrate.json 
[ { "in": "~/Documents/MuseScore3/Scores/file-1.mscz", "out": "~/Documents/MuseScore4/Scores/file-1.mscz" },
  { "in": "~/Documents/MuseScore3/Scores/file-2.mscz", "out": "~/Documents/MuseScore4/Scores/file-2.mscz" },
...
  { "in": "~/Documents/MuseScore3/Scores/file-N.mscz", "out": "~/Documents/MuseScore4/Scores/file-N.mscz" }]
^D
$ MuseScore-4.0.0-x86_64.AppImage -j migrate.json

I cannot change tempo, fixed to 120 and clicking on right corner where it is given does not do anything. No problem in MS 3. I have checked several files and there seems to be no simple way of changing the tempo.
Wlodek

Thank you very much for the great effort of MuseScore. However, us linux users do not find some features like support for vst and lv2 effects. This limits a lot because we cannot load virtual instruments or sound effects. Also, when loading SF2, it doesn't display the list of instruments that the sf2 contains, it only loads the first one it finds and that's not good, since we have sf2 with several instruments integrated in the same package. I also didn't see the way to select Jack as the audio engine. Hopefully Linux users will soon be able to enjoy all those features so necessary for today's musician.

Thank you for the wonderful effort in releasing MuseScore 4 in partnership with SaoMai.
Very excited to try the braille export, so convenient now from within MuseScore. However, I have not yet had success achieving bar-over-bar braille format with the exported brf from a piano score. Is there a manual, tutorial, or setting for format options (e.g. single line, bar-over-bar, octave mark every bar, simple slurs only, etc.)?
With thanks
Moya

MuseSounds are awesome! I generally find myself turning the brass and vocals up, saxophones and piano down to achieve a balance similar to what I had in MuseScore 3. Also dynamics seem to be inconsistent (e.g. trombones will randomly jump velocity from quiet to loud, and I can tell it's velocity not just volume cause the attack changes). Playback seems to be very scratchy in the live tool (not in exported audio), does MuseScore 4 have that much higher performance demands than MS 3? though that seems to improve each time I play back a piece. The new Parts functionality threw me for a loop, the video above is tremendously helpful. Also +1 on the concern noted above about not being able to go back to MS3 once you open a score in MS4: the engraving conversion is not perfect, MS4 threw off the page breaks I had in MS3 on part, and with the instrument balance so different between versions, that is an unpleasant surprise to not be able to go back to safety until we can rebalance for MS4.

It all looks really nice, but...

On Mac OS 12.6, every time I open a new score, MS4 opens a new app iteration! So three scores = 3 MuseScore iterations. I am hoping this is a bug, not a feature. Please explain ASAP before I run back to MS3 in a hurry.

I downloaded for Windows 10, ran the file "Muse_Hub". A pop-up opened shortly saying that MuseHub is being made ready, then the pop-up closed and nothing happened... Will there be a working version soon or am I doing something wrong?

First. Musescore is awesome, thank's a lot.
Very impresive improvements.

My only complaint is when I have an offline score. In previous versions I can set in properties the link to an online score and update it from the Musescore app.

Now I can save to the cloud, that works. But it creates a new cloud score instead of update the previous one. And when I work in a cloud score, every time I save it, is saved to cloud, and that's slow. I don't find a way to save offline to prevent accidents and save online when is ready.

I started using musescore 4 today on pc windows. Very nice notation software. But I am having a very big problem. All the music that I a tried to compose became corrupted without no reason and I couldn’t recover anything. All my files became corrupted. Could someone help me please?

Will any optimization be introduced for those who want access to the high quality muse sounds but don't have a powerful laptop/set up?
I currently am running an intel i3 with an ssd and 12gb ram. My score playback constantly lags (understandable considering my setup), but perhaps the playback can include an option to buffer the score before playing for a smoother experience? I have already set my audio buffer size to 4096 but it seems that my hardware cant keep up.

Couple of questions -
(1) MS4 has no way to save as an MS3 compatible file ? (other than via MusicXML which is imperfect)
(2) The ABC ImpEx plugin is not available in v4 ?
Many thanks !

I just downloaded it today and already got some issues and bugs in my 1st 30mins of playing around the app.

1. Sound FM Electric Piano (my favorite sound) is nowhere, not even in Muse Hub. Suitcase Piao is not as satisfying.
2. Changing the instrument sound (e.g. Piano) using Mixer while playback makes that part start from the top, while (e.g. SATB) others continue.
3. Volume values have been changed from 0 - 127 to -60 - +12. (-60 doesn't really makes sense to me).
4. I downloaded the Choir voices in Muse Hub and replaced it in my vocals, and its a significant downgrade vs the default ones. Volume is too weak even in max.
5. Switching page views (Single page, continuous) is also removed in its normal position. tbh I still can't find it.

will the musescore website ever change its playback? I'm starting to notice that scores I arrange with the VST sounds in musescore 4 sound horrifically distorted when I upload because it's still using the musescore 3 sounds.

After I downloaded version 4.0, I kept running into a playback issue. When using the new Muse Sounds, some notes do not have playback. This is mainly apparent in the higher and lower range of the instrument. Is anyone else having this issue? If so how did you fix it?

I am loving the release, the only thing thats really bugging me is how- well- buggy the release is. I am very happy with everything, but nearly every 6 or 7 minutes I encounter a new bug and its very frustrating, I trust though with time these will be weeded out. Great Work!

wonderful! hey, are there any features like CC MIDI and Expression Map/Percussion Map in Musescore 4?

I'm so glad MuseScore 4 is finally released!
But as I checked it I noticed a few problems for me.
1. The guitar sounds are gone. There's but one sound for an electric guitar and tge rest that were on MS basic are gone. I hoped the new MuseSounds would contain new improved sounds for guitars, but there are none. Will there be in the near future more guitar sounds in the MuseSounds?
2. Also, I found out most MS3 instrumets don't have a corresponding sound in the MuseSounds. Will this library extend soon? It's hard for me to listen to pieces I write without the proper sounds. You have begun a wonderfull way towards the future of sounds and I hope it will get better and better.
3. Unfortunately, it was very difficult for me to find the percentage bar in the playback toolbar. It was something I used a lot in MS3 and MS2. I don't know if you should, but I hope to have this bar in a more useable place on the screen.
4. Plus, on the Hebrew version, where we write from right to left, the opening screen of the app does not show the full text. I do what I can to translate MS4 properly to Hebrew, but I need it to be compatible for it. For now, it's just the opening screen, but I'm afraid it could happen in more important screens in the future.

Hope to see what MuseScore future holds when you improve it oh so much,
Hope to see such amazing improvements and UI changes in Audacity, now that I've learned you're in charge of that as well,

Kfir,
A MS user and a wannabe composer.

I think you should have a Musescore 4 plus (with the things that are using all the RAM and forcing more powerful computers to be needed) and a Musescore 4 basic (with all those things taken out)

An enormous part of your audience is people with 'crappy' computers. I am not actually not one of them, however, I would still like a stripped down version since I only need the barebones of the program.

Hi guys!
Congratulations on the new version of MuseScore!
It's very fine!
And the new sound pack is fantastic!
I really want to help with the accessibility of the editor for blind musicians: testing, reporting about problems, and suggest improvements.
Please tell me where I can write about all this?

p.s. Sorry for my poor english.